Loughner declined from the army, but passed a background check to buy a gun?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

quote - "lets say you are a robber, you are walking down the street and find a nice juicy victim, as it is right now, the odds are a solid 99% chance they do not have a gun, you will rob them and get away no problem.

now lets say half of all people had guns - not just the bad guys but half of all people own a gun and carry it.

again you are a robber and your walking down the street and see a guy leaving the ATM, you still going to rob him knowing there is a 50% chance if you do, you are going to get shot in the face?"

Yeah, the criminals will just give up and find other professions. Lol. Um, maybe they will simply no longer be so polite as to ask for the money before they shoot, stab, tazer, etc...

[Stibe]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

quote - "lets say you are a robber, you are walking down the street and find a nice juicy victim, as it is right now, the odds are a solid 99% chance they do not have a gun, you will rob them and get away no problem.

now lets say half of all people had guns - not just the bad guys but half of all people own a gun and carry it.

again you are a robber and your walking down the street and see a guy leaving the ATM, you still going to rob him knowing there is a 50% chance if you do, you are going to get shot in the face?"

Yeah, the criminals will just give up and find other professions. Lol. Um, maybe they will simply no longer be so polite as to ask for the money before they shoot, stab, tazer, etc...

Nah, if i was a robber and knew there was a 50% chance i was going to get shot, i'd just kill him instead of it just being a robbery.

[boboo]

Originally Posted by Stibe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, if i was a robber and knew there was a 50% chance i was going to get shot, i'd just kill him instead of it just being a robbery.

Id like a pro-gun person to respond to that one

[Nocte]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id like a pro-gun person to respond to that one

If I was a robber and there was a 50% chance of getting shot I would rob an easier target.

[Nocte]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id like a pro-gun person to respond to that one

If I was a robber and there was a 50% chance of getting shot by my intended target or any of the people around him, I would probably choose to not rob anyone in the area.

If I was a robber and I felt that everyone around me was carrying a firearm and there was a 50% chance of getting shot, I probably wouldn't want to be a robber anymore.

[Hoggen]

Originally Posted by Stibe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, if i was a robber and knew there was a 50% chance i was going to get shot, i'd just kill him instead of it just being a robbery.

There was a murder case recently tried and settled where two men did a home invasion and set the house on fire after raping and torturing a pre-teen girl and her mother. The father lived; the mother and daughter burned alive. I don't know if any of them had guns, but no one was shot. You don't need guns to murder. You don't need to worry about guns to want to murder anyone. If you have a gun, you may be able to defend yourself, or you may not. I just don't see it as anyone elses business as to whether anyone should choose to own a gun, and the SCOTUS agrees with me, in spite of being nearly half communist.

Nedala-Just look at countries where its not piss easy to get guns, very few people get shoot in this countries, it could be so easy but guess most americans are blind.

Not many people may have been shot to death in Rwanda, even though guns are likely easy to get if you have money, but over 800,000 were hacked to death with machetes and all manner of attrocities commited prior to those deaths. Again, guns do not equal murderous intent, nor do they guarantee safety, but your viewpoint is decidedly ignorant and one-sided.

[Bushwick]

Violent crime is largely associated with poverty, lack of education and drug addiction. Banning guns won't stop crime, and I sincerely doubt widespread arming of the populace would deter it either. If an assailant suspects you are armed he isn't going to stand behind you and call "Draw!" before shooting you. If you want to reduce crime, go ahead and support sane restrictions on gun ownership and usage, but strongly consider supporting increases to social services like welfare, public health care and job creation for the unemployed.

A better argument for banning would be that gun hobbyists are creeeeepy and have morbid fantasies about home intruders.

[Nedala]

Just look at countries where its not piss easy to get guns, very few people get shoot in this countries, it could be so easy but guess most americans are blind.