The long awaited nerfbat for epic farmer$

[maestrom]

I'm more interested in the decision making process here.

I understand that the staff is not accountable to us. But what prompted this change after ~4 years of level < 46 MQing? Is there actually any evidence that you could not MQ epics before 46? It seems like if epics were not MQable pre-46 and suddenly were, there would be lots of discussion on allah or at the very least safehouse.

This hardly seems like something that could have been a ninja-change done by SOE after Velious. It also makes you wonder why they would ever have done something like making them MQable at level 1 in the first place.

Since it doesn't make sense for them to make epics not-MQable pre-46 in Kunark and then later on removing the level 46 requirement, it seems more likely that there never was a level 46 requirement.

Not gonna lie, I had hoped to twink a rogue with epic pretty early on and this definitely changes my plans for my next alt. This just seems like its coming out of the blue. What kind of conflicting research was there?

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm more interested in the decision making process here.

I understand that the staff is not accountable to us. But what prompted this change after ~4 years of level < 46 MQing? Is there actually any evidence that you could not MQ epics before 46? It seems like if epics were not MQable pre-46 and suddenly were, there would be lots of discussion on allah or at the very least safehouse.

This hardly seems like something that could have been a ninja-change done by SOE after Velious. It also makes you wonder why they would ever have done something like making them MQable at level 1 in the first place.

Since it doesn't make sense for them to make epics not-MQable pre-46 in Kunark and then later on removing the level 46 requirement, it seems more likely that there never was a level 46 requirement.

Not gonna lie, I had hoped to twink a rogue with epic pretty early on and this definitely changes my plans for my next alt. This just seems like its coming out of the blue. What kind of conflicting research was there?

Some druggie pillhead developer who probably did not have any ability to unilaterally make changes to the classsic EverQuest experience, gave a forum post blathering while stoned on schedule II controlled substances that it wasn't really intended.

Very very weak evidence. The validity is in question. "Originally intended" based off the forum post of a pandering druggie just isn't enough data for me.

/shrug

[AzzarTheGod]

^ Note: not referring to P99 staff, some might get confused with the lack of context I left out. Didn't make that clear enough.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some druggie pillhead developer who probably did not have any ability to unilaterally make changes to the classsic EverQuest experience, gave a forum post blathering while stoned on schedule II controlled substances that it wasn't really intended.

Very very weak evidence. The validity is in question. "Originally intended" based off the forum post of a pandering druggie just isn't enough data for me.

/shrug

I think it was on the first Pantheon stream that was done with P99 staff, someone asked Brad if low lvls running around with epics was classic and he said something along the lines of it never being intended, didn't remark if it was actually possible.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it was on the first Pantheon stream that was done with P99 staff, someone asked Brad if low lvls running around with epics was classic and he said something along the lines of it never being intended, didn't remark if it was actually possible.

Brad left his position at SOE a few weeks before Luclin launched. That left him several years of design time to go back and do what he intended.

But it stayed in the game. He had several years to fix his mistake, yet he did not do anything design-wise. Its because his OPINION must not have been unilaterally accepted.

One thing we know for certain, it is NOT classic to remove the ability to create epic twinks.