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Old 01-07-2011, 12:50 PM
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Cool. What game would you consider harder than elementary level, mr. savage? The entire point is that games are no longer designed to be even medium difficulty. They are all easy to.. very easy.

The way I see it is an evolution of gaming within the past 20 years.

First Generation: Very hard - hard difficulty
Most arcade games, TMNT: 1, Solstice, Ninja Gaiden, Battletoads type games. No reliance on others for the most part. Games were death traps.

Second Generation: Medium difficulty
Ultima, Everquest, Dreamcast->ps2 ?. Possibly relying on others to make sure you do not die. Or other real players having the possibility of killing you.

Current Gaming: Easy, wow clones.
World of Warcraft, Everquest 2, Rift, LOTRO.. etc.. etc.. etc. No reliance on others unless you *want* it. You can solo your whole career if you'd prefer and create instances where loot can be duplicated for your very own.

The most recent game I've played that provided any sense of difficulty was Fallout: New Vegas, on hard setting, on Hardcore mode, with small limbs perk. It still wasn't hard. Maybe if I had to go loot my corpse it would have been more difficult.

I look for hard games to play, and play them on hard. There aren't many games made anymore that are hard, but I consider Everquest at least medium.
Just because you have to put a ridiculous amount of time into Everquest, does not make it hard. Everquest was never hard, it was time consuming.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:54 PM
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Sorry can't edit, but I wouldn't even consider it Medium difficulty.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:55 PM
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Just because you have to put a ridiculous amount of time into Everquest, does not make it hard. Everquest was never hard, it was time consuming.
I said it was medium, and that's due to other people being able to put you in danger against your will. I'm pretty damn sure I'm good at Everquest, and I would consider it easy as well.

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Old 01-07-2011, 12:57 PM
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I said it was medium, and that's due to other people being able to put you in danger against your will. I'm pretty damn sure I'm good at Everquest, and I would consider it easy as well.

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No problem. I don't want to argue with you. I just disagree with your list.
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:15 PM
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No problem. I don't want to argue with you. I just disagree with your list.
Could you backup your disagreement with some examples of your own? If you consider that no games are hard, then your statement would always be true for yourself.

I believe that most people are bad at mmorpg games, so if the game allows for detrimental ignorance of your peers, it increases the difficulty level.

What aspect of gaming do you consider difficult?
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:19 PM
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Could you backup your disagreement with some examples of your own? If you consider that no games are hard, then your statement would always be true for yourself.

I believe that most people are bad at mmorpg games, so if the game allows for detrimental ignorance of your peers, it increases the difficulty level.

What aspect of gaming do you consider difficult?
Keeping my girlfriend off my back.
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:31 PM
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Keeping my girlfriend off my back.
Hm...Hm......you wreak of bad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] That List Nilbog made was quite accurate, if you were a true Gamer, you might know that. I just wanted to Nerd Rage at you for a minute. Since you are so concerned about EQ difficulty I would say Easy all the way to Hard. It all depends on how you play the game. Go into SolB, BnB with all melee group, and a druid healer. Might not be that easy after all... Damn kids these days, don't you have some WoW to play?
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:47 PM
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Hm...Hm......you wreak of bad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] That List Nilbog made was quite accurate, if you were a true Gamer, you might know that. I just wanted to Nerd Rage at you for a minute. Since you are so concerned about EQ difficulty I would say Easy all the way to Hard. It all depends on how you play the game. Go into SolB, BnB with all melee group, and a druid healer. Might not be that easy after all... Damn kids these days, don't you have some WoW to play?
In the same sentence you managed to agree that EQ is at medium difficulty, then go on to say its Easy all the way to Hard ? which is it ? do you know what your talking about ? Your Solb example is retarded. When going with a proper group it becomes ... easy. Making a game hard on yourself isn't the same as a game being hard.

I can make Mario hard if I close my eyes and play with my toes.
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:30 PM
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I believe that most people are bad at mmorpg games
Especially people who play here.
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:32 PM
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Especially people who play here.
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