Camp; questions about rules

[redbandit]

This got way off topic, my thing was, in any normal case, 2 people separate can camp every spec np and nobody whines about it, but if two people do it in a grp its a foul, and camping the exact same number of the same mobs in a different zone by yourself, is completely ok. That is silly. But for some reason its the rules so this post answered my question, and alot of guk questions!

[mognet]

Originally Posted by redbandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This got way off topic, my thing was, in any normal case, 2 people separate can camp every spec np and nobody whines about it, but if two people do it in a grp its a foul, and camping the exact same number of the same mobs in a different zone by yourself, is completely ok. That is silly. But for some reason its the rules so this post answered my question, and alot of guk questions!

I think Spoonman spoke to your point, he just used Guk as a reference and got people sidetracked.

In my experience, the issue arises when there is no attempt to speak with the other players prior to just making a move, which of course is regarded as a dick move. I have no problem discussing with someone why I feel I shouldn't need to give up certain mobs to them provided I have a valid reason, but I also understand when someone else tells me there's no room/mobs for me.

Overall, the player base on this server is pretty damn good in my opinion. We just need to work on some decency with some folks.

[Spoonman]

Originally Posted by redbandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This got way off topic, my thing was, in any normal case, 2 people separate can camp every spec np and nobody whines about it, but if two people do it in a grp its a foul, and camping the exact same number of the same mobs in a different zone by yourself, is completely ok. That is silly. But for some reason its the rules so this post answered my question, and alot of guk questions!

The area and scale is different but if you break this situation down in the same manner you have they're pretty similar.

You have 8 or 9 (going by info in thread I'm not familiar with this camp) spawns usually held down by 2 individuals, instead being held down by a group of 2, logic and reasoning states this should be fine. But because you are grouped people act like you're retarded....despite the fact that this is no different than 2 necro's soloing half the camp each.

With Guk (this example anyway) you have 4 camps total...3 really as you rarely get all 4 someone's typically sitting on savant / sage...anyway. 3-4 rooms. Not one person would bat an eye if 4 individual people were camping each of the rooms... but when 6 people in a group attempt to do it to get exp....well that's just stupid despite the fact that you got to the camp at full spawn, broke the spawn up and have been pulling these mobs for hours potentially, anyone SHOULD be able to just waltz in and say they want whichever room you're not physically sitting in.

The end result is the group gets boned out of their exp and the individual gets exactly what they came for, if you arrive to a spawn that's cleared. You should have the decency to see who's camping it, and if it's a group grinding out exp...the decency to leave them alone. Yeah if one 50 is clearing 4 camps you're well within your rights to snag one, people bullying exp groups out of their mobs need to give your heads a shake.

[Cars]

Originally Posted by Spoonman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The end result is the group gets boned out of their exp and the individual gets exactly what they came for, if you arrive to a spawn that's cleared. You should have the decency to see who's camping it, and if it's a group grinding out exp...the decency to leave them alone. Yeah if one 50 is clearing 4 camps you're well within your rights to snag one, people bullying exp groups out of their mobs need to give your heads a shake.

/agree

Nuff said

[redbandit]

Originally Posted by Spoonman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The area and scale is different but if you break this situation down in the same manner you have they're pretty similar.

You have 8 or 9 (going by info in thread I'm not familiar with this camp) spawns usually held down by 2 individuals, instead being held down by a group of 2, logic and reasoning states this should be fine. But because you are grouped people act like you're retarded....despite the fact that this is no different than 2 necro's soloing half the camp each.

no he was completely incorrect, there is only 7 mobs, if there was any more than 7, we would have given some up np, we had the perfect amount of mobs on a perfect timer. The area isnt that different, slap a wall between each spec at oasis and its about the same. it just seems much larger because of the cave system, but theyre really similar, even in oasis the ones in the tower are considered part of the same camp, unless you cant keep them all killed, but that doesnt play into this situation.

[Lelroni]

Originally Posted by redbandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This got way off topic, my thing was, in any normal case, 2 people separate can camp every spec np and nobody whines about it, but if two people do it in a grp its a foul, and camping the exact same number of the same mobs in a different zone by yourself, is completely ok. That is silly. But for some reason its the rules so this post answered my question, and alot of guk questions!

You could be a 'dick' and tell the person that the other guy in your group is camping 1/2 the specs and you the other half. I did that when I was duo'ing with a necro in lguk on the Lord/AM. (he had lord and I had AM)

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Sad part is, after an enchanter came up and demanded one of the camps, we obliged and gave her the Lord camp. She promptly died trying to clear up to the Lord. (she even had a 30-40-ish gnome cleric grouped with her, and I bet she wasn't boxing it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[redbandit]

I already thought of that one hah