Do you still play LIVE? [poll]

[absol]

Originally Posted by Monty405 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are most of the classic zones still the same? At what point can you go back to old raid zones such as ToV and just clean house solo?

Most old world bosses die 1 min after they pop. I don't know who's doing it, but people must have them timed and on lockdown because I've very rarely seen them up. Maybe I've just been unlucky. This is on the FV server where pretty much everything is tradable so there's a market for the loot still, particularly as old world gear has no level requirements so its good for twinks. Or maybe its fuelling the secondary market so real life cash is involved. I dunno.

Last week was different. I was running through Kael to get something for an alt, and Vindi was up. Never seen that before. I killed him and his 2 protectors, fight took about 10 mins. He dropped the bp.

Kael was empty, nobody else here but me so I made my way to Tormax's room. He wasn't up, but I was just goofing around anyway, so I started killing stuff in the room. I turned around and all of a sudden there was someone sitting on the throne, who definitely wasn't there when I came in. Dude came out of nowhere. I said hi and tried to strike up a conversation being friendly and all but the guy just ignored me. Undeterred, and realising just my presence here was messing with his plans, I kept on talking. After 10 mins I thanked him for being such a good listener and left.

[Charlievox]

Originally Posted by absol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most old world bosses die 1 min after they pop. I don't know who's doing it, but people must have them timed and on lockdown because I've very rarely seen them up. Maybe I've just been unlucky. This is on the FV server where pretty much everything is tradable so there's a market for the loot still, particularly as old world gear has no level requirements so its good for twinks. Or maybe its fuelling the secondary market so real life cash is involved. I dunno.

Last week was different. I was running through Kael to get something for an alt, and Vindi was up. Never seen that before. I killed him and his 2 protectors, fight took about 10 mins. He dropped the bp.

Kael was empty, nobody else here but me so I made my way to Tormax's room. He wasn't up, but I was just goofing around anyway, so I started killing stuff in the room. I turned around and all of a sudden there was someone sitting on the throne, who definitely wasn't there when I came in. Dude came out of nowhere. I said hi and tried to strike up a conversation being friendly and all but the guy just ignored me. Undeterred, and realising just my presence here was messing with his plans, I kept on talking. After 10 mins I thanked him for being such a good listener and left.

By the time I left Live, it was infested with bots permacamping a lot of the old world bosses. They ran on timers. They would pop in just before a spawn, kill and loot and pop out again. Always parked right on top of the spawn point so even if you were there first, you couldn't pull agro.

[Monty405]

Why would they be so committed to killing old npcs that drop completely outdated loot? Also, why would Sony / DBG not monitor this

[Charlievox]

Because you could RMT for Raid level gear that was not level restricted and twink out your newbies. Or just buy a few million plats for the price of a three month subscription.
Sony would only do something if enough players complained. But since hardly anyone was going to these places anymore, there were few complaints.
And if your bot is running 25 different accounts you hardly ever see the same bot twice.
You have to remember, these were big time Korean and Japanese operations with hundreds of accounts. So what if a few of them get banned now and then.

[absol]

Originally Posted by Charlievox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the time I left Live, it was infested with bots permacamping a lot of the old world bosses. They ran on timers. They would pop in just before a spawn, kill and loot and pop out again. Always parked right on top of the spawn point so even if you were there first, you couldn't pull agro.

Ah, that explains it then. You would think that SOE would have taken steps to kerb this behaviour by changing the spawn times. I suppose it was very low on their list of priorities.