Last night in Hate... Taking People's Loot

RyoGTO · #1 02-13-2010, 05:22 PM

Well yeah, but trying to reason with them doesn't seem to make a difference in the world. Nilbog, you should not have ALLOWED such a decision to be made. That is my point. Guild Leaders Should not be able to say "OK if I don't get what I want NO ONE HAS ANY TOYS!!!!" That is such an absurd attitude for Guild Leaders to have that we can only PRAY that Game Masters are there to STOP such behavior from ruling the server.

Since neither Tibador nor Otto should have the right nor the power to revoke no drop loot from someone that had won the loot legitimately.

**nilbog** · #2 02-13-2010, 05:27 PM

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Guild Leaders Should not be able to say "OK if I don't get what I want NO ONE HAS ANY TOYS!!!!" That is such an absurd attitude for Guild Leaders to have that we can only PRAY that Game Masters are there to STOP such behavior from ruling the server.

I can't control what decisions players make.. nor do I want to. Never in my life have I heard a GM blamed for player decisions though lol. I truly sympathize with you Ryo, but don't insult the staff.

edit: Maybe you should ask Otto and Tibador to ask the GMs to return all the loot. Otherwise, this thread will go in rants and flames as it has steadily declined into breaking forum rules.

Otto · #3 02-13-2010, 06:06 PM

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I can't control what decisions players make.. nor do I want to. Never in my life have I heard a GM blamed for player decisions though lol. I truly sympathize with you Ryo, but don't insult the staff.

edit: Maybe you should ask Otto and Tibador to ask the GMs to return all the loot. Otherwise, this thread will go in rants and flames as it has steadily declined into breaking forum rules.

Nilbog, it was not my choice whether or not loot was taken away. You did thrust that upon us.

What i wanted was for everything to have played out as it did. We got inny, they got maestro, no one gave the other a 30 minute warning. We were at the pull spot before trans, we engaged while they were clearing towards maestro.

You gave us the option that either everyone gets to kill both mobs, we roll for them, or neither of us get the mobs.

There was never an option to keep loot obtained and leave things the way they had happened. That's what I wanted and what I was pushing for from the start.

edit: Maybe he should talk to Tibador to ask the GMs to give back the loot and leave the events played out the way they had.

Salty · #4 02-13-2010, 06:10 PM

It would be easier to only get involved with players when it is a game mechanic issue only~

**nilbog** · #5 02-13-2010, 06:26 PM

This was discussed in vent. I don't record them, but it went something like:

I gave you guys those options.

I asked if Transcendance was there for the loot, the "glory of the kill", or both. Representative said both. I then asked if their intended target was indeed Innoruuk, they would rather have Innoruuk than Maestro as that was the whole point. Representative agreed.

I asked IB representative the same questions. Representative said they would like to leave it as is. I asked if this satisfied the agreement. Transcendance representative said no.

No one gets anything? Ok then.

The decision for loot was blanketed under the "rather have innoruuk, as it was intended target." If Guild A doesn't get innoruuk, then Guild B doesn't get maestro. Situation still not fixed, as Guild A gets Innoruuk loot, and Guild B gets non-god loot they weren't after to begin with. I can see how this would seem a consolation prize.. and if it was "left as is", it might suggest that they were indeed going after Maestro instead.

Even though I personally felt Maestro loot was superior in this instance, it was irrelevant to what was decided. There's no way I misunderstood this part of it.

I'm still down to give back the loot, to all parties, if both guild leaders agree to this.. as this was part of the initial problem.

And.. by guild leaders, I mean the guild leaders.. no one else's opinions will decide anything. Talk to each other, and get back with me.

There is no point in keeping this thread alive now though, everything is very spelled-out, and a resolution is still possible.

Sooo, Locked.