Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[Daldaen]

It's not about not having spare time. It's about wasting time doing something and losing a med tick here and there, just because your race regens less, and therefore by definition is less efficient.

I agree that charming is fantastic but suggesting you should play a different class if you aren't playing undead is dumb, let's be honest here. If that were the case there would be 0 Necros in Velious since Undead populate I believe 2 zones. ToFS and DN (and only bone dragon traps). Either way the # of Undead there is extremely minuscule and Necros are still useful.

Soloing summoners as a Necro is pretty inefficient, so you're generally restricted to soloing pre-51 mobs. Unless you can charm, again only works in Kunark at high-end.

At 60 with Demi Lich, let's say you have 1500 HP. A gnome dies in 6 minutes, and Iksar dies in 10.6minutes. If you want to stay above half health, the gnome must lifetap every 3 minutes, Iksars only have to every 5 minutes. This adds up as the gnome is having to take more time standing to cast life drains or click lifetap clickies, and loses out on more med ticks. Over the course of 10 minutes that Iksar casts just 2 life drains and the non-Iksar casts 3. That's 500 mana back you can spend on other things. Like a root and 2 splurts on another extra mob for example.

You won't find that an Iksar Necromancer can kill mob X and a non Iksar can't. That's not what this is about. You will find an Iksar Necro can root rot more without having to devote as much mana to healing himself, therefore being able to put it towards more damage.

Anywho, we are all just skeletons in the end-game, why not be the one which dies less fast?

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not about not having spare time. It's about wasting time doing something and losing a med tick here and there, just because your race regens less, and therefore by definition is less efficient.

I agree that charming is fantastic but suggesting you should play a different class if you aren't playing undead is dumb, let's be honest here. If that were the case there would be 0 Necros in Velious since Undead populate I believe 2 zones. ToFS and DN (and only bone dragon traps). Either way the # of Undead there is extremely minuscule and Necros are still useful.

Soloing summoners as a Necro is pretty inefficient, so you're generally restricted to soloing pre-51 mobs. Unless you can charm, again only works in Kunark at high-end.

At 60 with Demi Lich, let's say you have 1500 HP. A gnome dies in 6 minutes, and Iksar dies in 10.6minutes. If you want to stay above half health, the gnome must lifetap every 3 minutes, Iksars only have to every 5 minutes. This adds up as the gnome is having to take more time standing to cast life drains or click lifetap clickies, and loses out on more med ticks. Over the course of 10 minutes that Iksar casts just 2 life drains and the non-Iksar casts 3. That's 500 mana back you can spend on other things. Like a root and 2 splurts on another extra mob for example.

You won't find that an Iksar Necromancer can kill mob X and a non Iksar can't. That's not what this is about. You will find an Iksar Necro can root rot more without having to devote as much mana to healing himself, therefore being able to put it towards more damage.

Anywho, we are all just skeletons in the end-game, why not be the one which dies less fast?

This is a good post.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Synthlol

Of course I'm talking down to you. That's the nature of conversations with someone who is beneath you. Insisting that it comes from a place of anger to discredit it is for trolls, and that doesn't belong here.

K. Ignored, fool.

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not about not having spare time. It's about wasting time doing something and losing a med tick here and there, just because your race regens less, and therefore by definition is less efficient.

Wasting time is one thing but a good question is if the waste of time effects what you're doing.

I agree that charming is fantastic but suggesting you should play a different class if you aren't playing undead is dumb, let's be honest here. If that were the case there would be 0 Necros in Velious since Undead populate I believe 2 zones. ToFS and DN (and only bone dragon traps). Either way the # of Undead there is extremely minuscule and Necros are still useful.

Soloing summoners as a Necro is pretty inefficient, so you're generally restricted to soloing pre-51 mobs. Unless you can charm, again only works in Kunark at high-end.

We'll see what happens when Velious drops. In terms of relative class strength, necro takes a drop in Velious since there's less undead mobs to take advantage of. I'd wager necro's will start shifting to other classes and the ones that stick around will still find their most use in kunark undead heavy zones still.

At 60 with Demi Lich, let's say you have 1500 HP. A gnome dies in 6 minutes, and Iksar dies in 10.6minutes. If you want to stay above half health, the gnome must lifetap every 3 minutes, Iksars only have to every 5 minutes. This adds up as the gnome is having to take more time standing to cast life drains or click lifetap clickies, and loses out on more med ticks. Over the course of 10 minutes that Iksar casts just 2 life drains and the non-Iksar casts 3. That's 500 mana back you can spend on other things. Like a root and 2 splurts on another extra mob for example.

This is if you're not grouping with a Shaman or Druid. Even a Ranger(chloro) and Cleric(massive hp buffs) will effect this.

An argument of having to waste time on lifetap clickies is part of what I mean when I make an argument that hp regen is marginal. You add some damage from the lifetap and miss out on 2 ticks of seated med. What is that, 50-60 mana?

You won't find that an Iksar Necromancer can kill mob X and a non Iksar can't. That's not what this is about. You will find an Iksar Necro can root rot more without having to devote as much mana to healing himself, therefore being able to put it towards more damage.

What are you root rotting that is challenging?

Anywho, we are all just skeletons in the end-game, why not be the one which dies less fast?

Cause, we want to know much it really matters, not just that it matters.

[Synthlol]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

K. Ignored, fool.

If I were a chump, I would probably ignore someone who was schooling me, too.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Originally Posted by Synthlol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I were a chump, I would probably ignore someone who was schooling me, too.

Toxic. Citizen, please contain yourself.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You won't find that an Iksar Necromancer can kill mob X and a non Iksar can't. That's not what this is about. You will find an Iksar Necro can root rot more without having to devote as much mana to healing himself, therefore being able to put it towards more damage.

so an iksar necro is going to be able to hold down the entire Holgresh Elder camp more easily than a non-iksar