TOV - Pulling Mobs to ENT

[Erati]

if the mob comes to the zone cleanly with no trains being dropped on people I dont see an issue, the only major difference between fighting a special mob at the zone versus a trash one is their name

if another guild has yellow text you know its not yours, and if the other mobs are controlled in a way to not affect other players - seems like that is par for the course here

[Pint]

Mobs with aoes do affect other players though, Kael seems like the only exception to this. I assume tov Ent will have ppl idling around regularly and I'm sure dn Ent will have ppl killing spiders and messing etc. I feel like you should have to kill every tov dragon inside of its wing (where inside doesn't much matter) but maybe I'm I'm the minority.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mobs with aoes do affect other players though, Kael seems like the only exception to this. I assume tov Ent will have ppl idling around regularly and I'm sure dn Ent will have ppl killing spiders and messing etc. I feel like you should have to kill every tov dragon inside of its wing (where inside doesn't much matter) but maybe I'm I'm the minority.

Its relatively easy to avoid AEs, but I feel you. Zoning into Zlandicar AEing you when you're a lowly 50 Druid wanting to root rot spiders would be maximum dumb. So would Eashen blowing up some random 60 zoning into ToV to explore.

Inside the wings will be hit or miss. Especially since to do that you will be require to clear some amount of trash. Does clearing/engaging the trash first stake the claim to the mob? Or is it going to be retarded "wait til they engage trash and leapfrog them", or "engage trash and stall dragon". Because that's what it will end up being, we just haven't faced this in Kunark and Classic because every single dragon you are able to kite trash and burn them down. Inny, CT, VS, Trak, Outdoor dragons, all of it.

Seeing 3 guilds rush into HoT to break the entrance and a 4th leapfrog into Dozekar's room is going to be a reality.

We simply have too many high-end guilds to support the raiding environment here unless the system has the means to break them up. Sim repops are the best way because everyone gets a share. Variance was a way, but that just split out all the casuals and left things to the neckbeards who want to sock for 16 hours each mob every week. Rotations are a way but we saw how well those worked.

[Subversive]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We simply have too many high-end guilds

Sorry friend, there is only 1. But it IS fun to pretend.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Subversive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry friend, there is only 1. But it IS fun to pretend.

Sorry friend, I speak in terms of classic high-end. Classicly there were maybe 3 guilds on each server able to zone into ToV and kill trash. Here there's like 10. And like 6 of those could kill all of WToV and Doze/Eashen/Ikatiar quite handily during their prime times.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mobs with aoes do affect other players though, Kael seems like the only exception to this. I assume tov Ent will have ppl idling around regularly and I'm sure dn Ent will have ppl killing spiders and messing etc. I feel like you should have to kill every tov dragon inside of its wing (where inside doesn't much matter) but maybe I'm I'm the minority.

dont some trashy mobs have AEs as well

I dont think 2-3 people afk 'idling' at the zone should dictate where the 50-60 raiders trying to accomplish a goal should go

but this isnt the place to debate this as it seems much of this will be figured out as we go