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[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny how Germany has one of the strongest economies in the world and is a part of the EU. They are also ethnically nordic, but have the most inclusive immigration policies in the world and a booming population.

But you're just going to ignore both points because the truth is inconvenient to you.

They have a strong economy because of the euro, which has absolutely decimated wages and economies in the south of Europe. Have you heard of Greece? Their pensions are paying for the Germany economy.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They have a strong economy because of the euro, which has absolutely decimated wages and economies in the south of Europe. Have you heard of Greece? Their pensions are paying for the Germany economy.

GERMAN economy*

[Lune]

Originally Posted by TarukShmaruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also LOL @ the "the public has a right to tell corporations how much they can pay their CEOS" - no they fucking don't you dumb hippy. Anymore than I have a right to tell you anything at all.

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The public has as much a right to tell corporations how to allocate their resources as corporations have to tell the government how to allocate theirs. Ideally, when corporations are being inimical, people wouldn't work for them or patronize them, but it doesn't really work like that, the invisible hand is a fallacy, etc

I said the exact opposite of that. Learn to fucking read and understand innuendo.

Originally Posted by TarukShmaruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

France, Greece, Spain, just look at Britain and how far they've fallen because they can barely afford to be a major military superpower anymore.

The small, homogenized nordic countries manage by having very strict immigration and small population.

Also LOL @ the "the public has a right to tell corporations how much they can pay their CEOS" - no they fucking don't you dumb hippy. Anymore than I have a right to tell you anything at all.

How far have France and Britain fallen exactly? They still perform better than the US does, again, in nearly every metric for general well-being except aggregate wealth (which in the US is concentrated at the top).

Japan, Australia, Canada, and Germany don't have small populations. How do you account for their success?

What do we have? A bloated military that we use to brutalize brown people, and protect the world from a country that can just barely afford to wage a war against Ukraine and has a GDP smaller than California?

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They have a strong economy because of the euro, which has absolutely decimated wages and economies in the south of Europe. Have you heard of Greece? Their pensions are paying for the Germany economy.

Their pensions are paying for the German economy? What a curious statement. You solely blame the Euro for the languid southern European economies? It's as simple as that? Not deep-seated cultural issues and an inability to adapt to a changing economic climate? The German economy is successful because of good institutions, good leadership, a favorable culture, a healthy political system, productive workforce, and many many other variables.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their pensions are paying for the German economy? What a curious statement. You solely blame the Euro for the languid southern European economies? It's as simple as that? Not deep-seated cultural issues and an inability to adapt to a changing economic climate? The German economy is successful because of good institutions, good leadership, a favorable culture, a healthy political system, productive workforce, and many many other variables.

The euro was a bad idea, and it was pushed by Germany and the other Northern European nations. Those Southern European nations weren't competitive back then, and tying them to the same currency was essentially a tariff on their goods. Who in Europe would buy a Greek product when they cost the same amount as a German one? Look at Germany's trade surpluses. They are taking advantage of people.

Also, if you're blaming this on the culture of Southern Europe, it's very easy to make the same argument that people in the US have the same problem. I hear all the time that it's "the lack of a two parent family" or a "culture of entitlement" that keep people in poverty here. Which is it, a state issue, or an issue of culture? If it's a state issue, then it's clear that the people who designed the Euro were either corrupt of incompetent. If it's a cultural problem, I'll be sure to remember that the next time I hear someone in this country complain. I seem to remember a man saying something to the effect of 47% of Americans don't want to work. Are you saying that the south of Europe has a cultural issue which makes them uncompetitive?? Sounds awfully republican

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yall should become economists