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Old 12-23-2010, 03:56 AM
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The submission of evidence that she pathed through the long way on live does not prove that she couldn't be pulled through the cubby, though.
If you using this as a claim to back you up, then there are a lot of things on this server that could be one way or the other. I would argue that probably 60% of this server is from memory with little or no evidence to back it up, but it's in there because it is classic.

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On this server, I've seen Vox trained out of her lair and through the ice giant tunnels and into the king room. She was trained that way because the players that had aggro ran through the ice giant tunnels to get out of her lair. You must have meant that she currently does not path that direction if she is pulled through the lev cubby. That is the only way your statement can be true.
This is what is currently happening, yes.

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I personally don't care if Vox is tethered or not, though. I can think of a number of interesting ways to take on the encounter if she was tethered, and I can only imagine the posts and accusations that would follow another outside the box strategy.
I'm under the same sentiment about the tethering. I could care less whether she is tethered or not, but it's not that I am arguing against your out of the box strategy, but as Trimm pointed out, your "out of the box strategy" is being used to bypass multiple mobs. It is not to say that you as a guild, IB, or any other guild could not take vox with those mobs.

The argument is for the fact that it wouldn't be as easy. Your numbers on vox would not be as high to push her to interrupt her CH's, and with a lower amount of players, guild X may not be able to take vox as immediately as you can pulling her through the cubby. Different strategies, such as training the giants away or actually clearing towards her lair prior to her pull could/would be needed depending on the amount of pet classes/cc available at the raid.

The point comes down to, as Aadill pointed out, fixing things so that the server reacts much more classically, and to make viable strats classic. Until we see a screen shot vying for the pull-ability of vox through the wall/cubby, i'd like to think that Gwence's screen shots more than prove the point at the moment that vox should be pathed through the double doors, aggroing more mobs than pulling her through the cubby does.

That being said, this post has turned into a flame war and it wasn't my intention. I just want this fixed to be classic or fixed with a workaround as close to classicness as possible. I would ask that you don't post here unless your intention is to get this bug fixed in the fastest, most efficient and working manner possible. We have not seen evidence to point out that she was pullable through the cubby, whereas gwence posted evidence for the exact thing that I have been fighting for.
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:58 AM
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Taluvill, I just got home and am admittedly mildly intoxicated. However, I just wanted to reply quickly and state that my posts were not intended as flames - simply as counter-arguments to claims I felt were not entirely justified. If any of my posts came off as flames I apologize - I only want to ensure that changes aren't made without considering all variables.
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