The Earth stands on the brink of its sixth mass extinction and the fault is ours

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like, I can't believe I'm nauseatingly repeating this for the hundredth god damned time.

"Science" done by people to further an agenda doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It isn't allowed to progress.

Depends on who is doing the scrutinizing, and how dearly the ideas behind the science are held. Progress doesn't always have to mean an increase in knowledge or proof. Sometimes progress is about how many people you can get to agree with you.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes progress is about how many people you can get to agree with you.

Acceptance into academia doesn't always mean progress. Bad ideas can be readily accepted by a lot of people. This isn't something that needs to be pointed out.

Progress, on the other hand, is simply progress. Progress doesn't care how many people agree with it. If everyone came to a consensus that we should decapitate a small child and roll its head down a pyramid every Sunday as an offering to the gods, that would not be progress.

[paulgiamatti]

I'll just leave this here for now: https://youtu.be/3oH0ReL3Cew

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Acceptance into academia doesn't always mean progress. Bad ideas can be readily accepted by a lot of people. This isn't something that needs to be pointed out

It is something that needs to be pointed out though since a lot of people think that vaccines are good for us and that evolution is real and that steel skyscrapers can collapse at free fall speed from a couple of small fires.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Acceptance into academia doesn't always mean progress. Bad ideas can be readily accepted by a lot of people. This isn't something that needs to be pointed out.

Progress, on the other hand, is simply progress. Progress doesn't care how many people agree with it. If everyone came to a consensus that we should decapitate a small child and roll its head down a pyramid every Sunday as an offering to the gods, that would not be progress.

Within the last 10-20 years the idea of purposefully decreasing the population of the earth has become viewed as something that will most likely be necessary for human progress and survival. It's amazing that people will now casually talk about how overpopulated the earth is and how Depopulation will be necessary in the near future. The amount of humans that would be brutally murdered in such an event would make your scenario pale in comparisson. Yet, more and more people are convinced that what would basically be a mass genocide is just something that needs to happen. That it would somehow be progressive.

So is it a bad idea, or would it be progress?

[Humerox]

Moot since the US and Russia/China are poised on the brink. The idea that nuclear war can be "won" rings the bell for us.

Just a matter of time, now.