Miscellaneous: Vox Pathing?

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was just taking it from a logical point of view. I don't know that it did that for a fact personally, and friends have confirmed that it should go through the door, although it just seems logical that she cant fit through the cubby. Not saying it didn't happen, but when other people can confirm it for me, along with logical reasoning, the answer should be pretty obvious.

Not trying to start an argument here, but how is it more logical that she warps through a smaller hole covered by a rock? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how you enter the lair through the giant area - through a small player sized hole covered by a rock. Just don't see how that makes more sense than her going through the cubby.

Again, however you want to do it works for me, I'm sure everyone on the server will adapt to whatever change is made - it's not like the way it is now gives any one group an advantage over another, just like a change will not benefit any one group. It just seems to me there is a lot of "a friend of mine remembers..." and "I don't know, but it makes more sense..." statements in here arguing for a change, but no actual hard evidence to support it.

[Gwence]

I dont know why this is even an issue, multiple guilds pulled vox out of her lair (through the back, or the front), their were multiple guilds that fought her in the lair as well, /shrug. It's also amazing people are trying to explain out logistics of what a mob can and can't fit through on everquest, whether it be p99 or eqlive mobs could always do things that would make you look twice.

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox5.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox6.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox7.html

took me about 4 minutes to find these, Im sure if I spent actual research time on it, could find a bunch more.

I guess the physical logistics of a dragon being able to have half her body through a solid object (in this case a wooden door) and her head phasing into solid rock is something that escaped those badass live developers as well.

[Itchybottom]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess the physical logistics of a dragon being able to have half her body through a solid object (in this case a wooden door) and her head phasing into solid rock is something that escaped those badass live developers as well.

Actually it didn't completely. Mobs "run in place" for a while before making it through a tunnel/door if they're bigger than the opening. During Kunark, a friend of mine used to solo the apes outside of Dalnir using a weighted axe on his craptastic geared warrior by collision kiting them down to 50% before engaging for actual toe-to-toe melee. They still eventually get through, but the collision detection on the model box is indeed implemented on live.

There was also collision detection for feared mobs, that would 32k themselves if they ran into a wall for too long (or fell under the world.) That however, was a horrible feature.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont know why this is even an issue, multiple guilds pulled vox out of her lair (through the back, or the front), their were multiple guilds that fought her in the lair as well, /shrug. It's also amazing people are trying to explain out logistics of what a mob can and can't fit through on everquest, whether it be p99 or eqlive mobs could always do things that would make you look twice.

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox5.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox6.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox7.html

took me about 4 minutes to find these, Im sure if I spent actual research time on it, could find a bunch more.

I guess the physical logistics of a dragon being able to have half her body through a solid object (in this case a wooden door) and her head phasing into solid rock is something that escaped those badass live developers as well.

Do you guys clear all the giants or leave them up? If they are left up then ya, I would say you guys are voxfags.

I think the only argument that holds weight is using the pathing through the tunnel to bypass the giants.

Not really a big deal regardless. I'd sit them near zone-in just so people run into them and die, imo.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox5.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox6.html

http://www.kupka.net/eq/vox/vox7.html

Your own screenshots are working against your argument. Vox was able to be pulled out of the lair, yes. She was pulled through the tunnels and Ice Giant area to the double wooden doors.

You should not be able to pull her through a wall to bypass the giants.