GG fizzled out. TMO & Empire can make new PnP?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

having a hard time believing the spawn timers are deterring good guys from contesting when they were showing up at these hours with equal or greater numbers than we were just a few weeks ago

Sustainability my man. You can't convince 40 people to contest a target at shit hours when they know they will lose or high a very high chance of losing. Maybe a few times...but I'm sure you realize this.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sustainability my man. You can't convince 40 people to contest a target at shit hours when they know they will lose or high a very high chance of losing. Maybe a few times...but I'm sure you realize this.

this is true, and it's also why the idea of two guilds being on even footing in the endgame just isn't possible with this population

one guild will always win out a few fights, morale will be low for the other guild so people will be less inclined to log in to contest, the winning guild will get more applicants since most people coming into the raid scene want to actually raid, etc.

good guys formed with the wrong goals under the wrong leadership

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is true, and it's also why the idea of two guilds being on even footing in the endgame just isn't possible with this population

one guild will always win out a few fights, morale will be low for the other guild so people will be less inclined to log in to contest, the winning guild will get more applicants since most people coming into the raid scene want to actually raid, etc.

good guys formed with the wrong goals under the wrong leadership

I'm in GG and pretty depressed in the lack I've been able to gloat on others when killing uncontested raid mobs at odd hours. Definitely considering leaving soon, as I feel like real leaders could've motivated us to do more. If I join Empire, can you give me advice?

I want to play at all hours of the day, but I've been struggling, since I've found that I have to go to work and spend time with my family. But I know there must be other ways. Can you give me some pointers on how you are able to accomplish this feat?

[Fael]

Funny how contempter has pushing this argument for the last half decade. Only when it's with BDA on blue its against variance, here I guess it's for variance, I don't know.

Maybe for rotations ?

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny how contempter has pushing this argument for the last half decade. Only when it's with BDA on blue its against variance, here I guess it's for variance, I don't know.

Maybe for rotations ?

I'm having fun playing here regardless dawg, I just think it's cute to talk so much trash about winning 4am repops when this game is your life. I'm not even for variance here though, enjoy :shrug:. Hate it on blue also but the sock would be even worse there without it.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by contemptor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm in GG and pretty depressed in the lack I've been able to gloat on others when killing uncontested raid mobs at odd hours. Definitely considering leaving soon, as I feel like real leaders could've motivated us to do more. If I join Empire, can you give me advice?

I want to play at all hours of the day, but I've been struggling, since I've found that I have to go to work and spend time with my family. But I know there must be other ways. Can you give me some pointers on how you are able to accomplish this feat?

Should just join cuz it's the right thing to do.

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should just join cuz it's the right thing to do.

I need someone to teach me the way bro

[snufzaimoverlord]

When a guild forms for the direct purpose of destroying another, then completely fails at that task, ya they gonna get FQ d dawg.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is true, and it's also why the idea of two guilds being on even footing in the endgame just isn't possible with this population

one guild will always win out a few fights, morale will be low for the other guild so people will be less inclined to log in to contest, the winning guild will get more applicants since most people coming into the raid scene want to actually raid, etc.

good guys formed with the wrong goals under the wrong leadership

Good points. Especially with guilds fielding 60-100 at times on a server with what 300-400 peaks?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sustainability my man. You can't convince 40 people to contest a target at shit hours when they know they will lose or high a very high chance of losing. Maybe a few times...but I'm sure you realize this.

lol Altari... heres how it works man, if you want the tiemers pushed, you defend the target until the guild desperate for those pixles gives up, then you let timers run to normal hours.

If you think for a second that anyones going to come to a raid agreement with anyone on this server, you are gonna have a bad time. This is a greif server you idiot this isnt a rotation blue server, and it simply never will be. if thats what you're hoping to accomplish here, then I suggest you make trades back to blue while its 4:1