Merchants: OT Mob speed adjustment?

[Kahlid74]

Originally Posted by Kender [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on live you used to be able to outrun mobs by jumping... until you ran out of stamina at least

I loved the jump trick, was the last ditch effort.

If this is intended I feel for any non bard/druid/shaman. A lot of lower levels who don't have jboots or a pocket sow just got screwed. Seems like such a knee jerk thing to do. Why not focus on reducing the range of the lvl 18 AOE for bards and making it much more skill based.

[Adcid]

Originally Posted by Kahlid74 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not focus on reducing the range of the lvl 18 AOE for bards and making it much more skill based.

having the ability to do something doesn't make you good at it. A skilled bard will twist both 18 and level 2 songs until they get their 48 song. An unskilled bard may only pull a few mobs at a time and take much longer to kill them just trying to stay out of range of the attacks.

This "change" has made it much more difficult if not impossible to do at previous levels. It may be best to group from now on, that is, if a group will take us bards... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Madri]

Originally Posted by Adcid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

having the ability to do something doesn't make you good at it. A skilled bard will twist both 18 and level 2 songs until they get their 48 song. An unskilled bard may only pull a few mobs at a time and take much longer to kill them just trying to stay out of range of the attacks.

This "change" has made it much more difficult if not impossible to do at previous levels. It may be best to group from now on, that is, if a group will take us bards... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this fix was intended maybe it would be wise for them to remove class exp penalty as well.

Because i would like to see on the eq timeline where they changed this before luclin?


P.S. This was done because of certain bards not saying all of them, but some were being totally greedy in certain zones.

I remember Sirken saying something on one of the casts about it. This class is not played to it's full potential yet and once someone does get to that point will they nerf it again, is the real question?

[Tann]

Originally Posted by Madri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this fix was intended maybe it would be wise for them to remove class exp penalty as well.

Because i would like to see on the eq timeline where they changed this before luclin?

could you outrun mobs w/out sow with strafe? at least i didn't know of this till i got to p99

[Madri]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

could you outrun mobs w/out sow with strafe? at least i didn't know of this till i got to p99

If you played a bard during the timeline yes you could it was eventually patched out.

If I remember correctly it was post Velious.

[Tann]

Originally Posted by Madri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you played a bard during the timeline yes you could it was eventually patched out.

If I remember correctly it was post Velious.

I did =P

but I mostly swarm kited and grouped on live, never did this new wave hipster aoe kiting stuff.

[Madri]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did =P

but I mostly swarm kited and grouped on live, never did this new wave hipster aoe kiting stuff.

Yeah , the sad part is the bards DPS is terrible , they are a pure utility class. This ability to use these utilities makes them strong at doing a number of things other than melee. But because this game is a such a grind fest people will take a chanter/monk/rogue over a bard for the fact of exp penalties.This goes for other hybrids as well.

Post-Velious patch changes this yes.... but this change to run speed effects not only bards but every class, hurting those even more without run speed spells or effects..

[Adcid]

Originally Posted by Madri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this fix was intended maybe it would be wise for them to remove class exp penalty as well.

I think the xp penalty is being removed with the expansion in August.

isn't the summoning post level 51 EQ's intended for the anti bard kiting initiative?