Hey Forsaken

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Misek84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By issuing this harsh penalty when forshaken is just trying to reorganize so it can start competing again is bad and leads one to question if staff even wants people to compete against ramp.

Velious launch would go much smoother with just one "competitive" guild. Isn't that what you, Hoku, and Rogean discussed over dinner, Unbrella? TMO / Rampage merger never happened so incoming sanctions. I don't have any vested in how any of this goes anymore, but it's sad to see my old guild getting kicked while they are down. Almost makes you wanna quit, huh? Maybe that's the point.

[Rayzor84]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious launch would go much smoother with just one "competitive" guild. Isn't that what you, Hoku, and Rogean discussed over dinner, Unbrella? TMO / Rampage merger never happened so incoming sanctions. I don't have any vested in how any of this goes anymore, but it's sad to see my old guild getting kicked while they are down. Almost makes you wanna quit, huh? Maybe that's the point.

Your old guild shouldn't have tried to get around their class restrictions.

[arsenalpow]

How about this, where is the correspondence from Sirken giving Forsaken approval to go nuts in class R?

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They halfway thought it through, but I don't think they actually followed up with Sirken.

[Misek84]

From the IB raid suspension page around 3/2015 (my linking skill suck)

"if i remember correctly, this has only happened one other time, and it involved TMO using Enraptured to circumvent a raid suspension. Enraptured was created by TMO and used by TMO as an alt guild prior to the suspension coming down. I also watched TMO leadership telling members to get tagged in Enraptured to circumvent punishment, and i didn't allow it. it was literally the exact same leadership and was specifically ordered to be used to avoid punishment.

this is not the case with Rampage, and so i did not treat them that way. and as i told TMO, if they want to disband their guild to form another guild, if they want to wipe dkp, if they want to shut down the TMO website, if they install new leadership, and if they did all that without knowing that the suspension was coming (to ensure it wasnt being done to circumvent me), then id be ok with it. and that was why I told Rampage that they would not be suspended.

That said, multiple staff members have reviewed this decision, and it has been decided that these punishments will still remain with any players that were IB tagged at the time of the incident, as well as any players that are currently tagged under IB.
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So as you can see staff almost let Ramp not even serve IB suspension but end up being they had to serve the last few days (during no repop days). There were no penalty for Ramp killing mobs when they were suppose to b suspended because they were considered a new guild. But when TMO reformed to Forshaken they are considered the same guild and get a 3 week suspension (included this week deleted loot). How id that fair?