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View Poll Results: How should this rule be handled?
Keep it, as is. 5 7.69%
Keep the rule, but monitor chat a bit better. 14 21.54%
Abolish the rule 46 70.77%
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Old 05-31-2015, 01:29 AM
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Soon as Eunomia starts moderating chat the server turns stale and I just log and do other stuff. Granted, it sucks, but better than sitting on a dead box with nothing but auctions going on.
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Old 05-31-2015, 01:39 AM
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Soon as Eunomia starts moderating chat the server turns stale and I just log and do other stuff. Granted, it sucks, but better than sitting on a dead box with nothing but auctions going on.
The Guide, the one that's suppose to welcome you to the server, makes you want to log off and do other things rather than play the game. That shouldn't be how it works.

I read the thread voting the GM into their position, what happened? I know the playerbase wouldn't do that if the person was a complete a-hole. I'd really like some insight from the GM on this matter because it doesn't seem natural for them to just do a 180 like this.
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Old 06-01-2015, 11:51 AM
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The Guide, the one that's suppose to welcome you to the server, makes you want to log off and do other things rather than play the game. That shouldn't be how it works.
You can go from having a fun time to a shit time on red in about 10 seconds.... the ooc is what makes it.
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Old 06-02-2015, 08:55 AM
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The Guide, the one that's suppose to welcome you to the server, makes you want to log off and do other things rather than play the game. That shouldn't be how it works.

I read the thread voting the GM into their position, what happened? I know the playerbase wouldn't do that if the person was a complete a-hole. I'd really like some insight from the GM on this matter because it doesn't seem natural for them to just do a 180 like this.
This is essentially the problem. We have a Guide that has expressed a true hatred for our server and the people that like to PvP within the server. I believe the words "burn the ground" were even used.

Let that sink in for a moment.

We need a partial GM that enjoys pvp and wants to see the red server succeed. Until we get one this is going to continue to be a massive problem. No long write ups neccesary. No deep discussion. Just a choice.

Do we want a guide that despises us? I sure dont.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:02 AM
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This is essentially the problem. We have a Guide that has expressed a true hatred for our server and the people that like to PvP within the server. I believe the words "burn the ground" were even used.

Let that sink in for a moment.

We need a partial GM that enjoys pvp and wants to see the red server succeed. Until we get one this is going to continue to be a massive problem. No long write ups neccesary. No deep discussion. Just a choice.

Do we want a guide that despises us? I sure dont.
There is so much wrong with this. Firstly, Eunomia would not let her feelings toward the server in general affect her decisions on a singular player level. It just wouldnt happen.

The server *had* a guide that fit the second paragraph's description, and because of the colostomy bag of a population hanging from his side, he quit.

Do you want a guide that despises you? That isnt the question to be asking. You should be asking is it worth having a guide that despises you. You can thank Eunomia for putting up with the server and be grateful that she takes the time to be on red, despite her feelings towards it, or you could wait for the 1 or 2 days a month Sirken is around doing in game petitions for a response.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:11 AM
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Do you want a guide that despises you? That isnt the question to be asking. You should be asking is it worth having a guide that despises you. You can thank Eunomia for putting up with the server and be grateful that she takes the time to be on red, despite her feelings towards it, or you could wait for the 1 or 2 days a month Sirken is around doing in game petitions for a response.
It would 100% be better to have 0 guides on red than to have a guide who doesn't know the PNP and cannot moderate pvp disputes. Not letting people be social in OOC is actively harmful to the server, especially to new players with questions.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:30 AM
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There is so much wrong with this. Firstly, Eunomia would not let her feelings toward the server in general affect her decisions on a singular player level. It just wouldnt happen.

The server *had* a guide that fit the second paragraph's description, and because of the colostomy bag of a population hanging from his side, he quit.

Do you want a guide that despises you? That isnt the question to be asking. You should be asking is it worth having a guide that despises you. You can thank Eunomia for putting up with the server and be grateful that she takes the time to be on red, despite her feelings towards it, or you could wait for the 1 or 2 days a month Sirken is around doing in game petitions for a response.
I wouldn't thank someone that, if given enough power, and, in her own words stated she would "shut the red server down". That statement alone invalidates your entire argument. Clearly she WOULD let her own feelings pulsate through the screen if given the power.

Your delusional if you think that's good for the server or population in general. A GM shouldn't be saying those things especially with such a large influx of new players. Imagine reading some of the shit that she says being a new player. It's a joke.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:37 AM
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I wouldn't thank someone that, if given enough power, and, in her own words stated she would "shut the red server down". That statement alone invalidates your entire argument. Clearly she WOULD let her own feelings pulsate through the screen if given the power.

Your delusional if you think that's good for the server or population in general. A GM shouldn't be saying those things especially with such a large influx of new players. Imagine reading some of the shit that she says being a new player. It's a joke.
If new player is scared off by anything a GM says in an off the cuff moment. World of Warcraft wants you!

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Old 06-02-2015, 09:41 AM
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I wouldn't thank someone that, if given enough power, and, in her own words stated she would "shut the red server down". That statement alone invalidates your entire argument. Clearly she WOULD let her own feelings pulsate through the screen if given the power.
In an RnF post where the poster was attacking my "boss" and one of the most dedicated staff members on the server, in favor of ME!

Has anyone been banned by me on Red? No

One suspension for training
Few ooc 1 day revokes

The sky is falling.
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:09 AM
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In an RnF post where the poster was attacking my "boss" and one of the most dedicated staff members on the server, in favor of ME!

Has anyone been banned by me on Red? No

One suspension for training
Few ooc 1 day revokes

The sky is falling.
And yeah, like. It kinda has felt like the sky is falling. Not because you're suspending people, but because general consensus is that you're effectively ending one of the most important social platforms we have. It's pretty obvious that your recent presence on the server is detrimental to our population. ooc is (was?) the best way for new players to be social and involve themselves in the community.

But maybe this is all a misunderstanding, and you're actually only wanting to end the awful ooc chatter while allowing normal chat. Players were reporting that you were telling them to stop talking even when they were just saying "pras" though, which is totally worrying. You probably can't tell us anything substantial for fun official reasons, but I'm sure you understand our frustration and can sympathize.
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