Game Mechanics: Bladestopper Using Reagents

[Man0warr]

So your saying clickies with cast times should require Reagents? Because Lev cloak doesn't (and shouldn't).

Pretty sure PoSky instant clickies require reagents too - for sure the Wizard ring and necklace.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your saying clickies with cast times should require Reagents? Because Lev cloak doesn't (and shouldn't).

Pretty sure PoSky instant clickies require reagents too - for sure the Wizard ring and necklace.

No he is saying that items that have reagent costs and are instaclick shouldnt be using the reagents due a instaclick spell not having a reagent check.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your saying clickies with cast times should require Reagents? Because Lev cloak doesn't (and shouldn't).

Pretty sure PoSky instant clickies require reagents too - for sure the Wizard ring and necklace.

I'm suggesting the PoSky clickies you refer to probably shouldn't use reagents, because of what I said above.

The reagent check is performed during casting. With instant cast time there is no casting phase so the check is never done and no reagent is consumed. At least that's how it was on the old client.

It would also explain why magician's summon waterstone and ring of flight don't use reagents for EB/Levitate. Because they are instant cast. Yet shaman potions and other clicks that aren't instant, do use reagents.

Pegasus Cloak, uses Levitation. This is a spell with no reagent. Levitate, the spell casters and priests get, is an entirely different spell and it requires a bat wing reagent. This is why you can stack Levitation and Levitate, they are different spell effects in different slots.

[Pint]

Possibility of wizard neck not requiring sky stones you say? Yes plz

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reagent check is performed during casting. With instant cast time there is no casting phase so the check is never done and no reagent is consumed. At least that's how it was on the old client.

It would also explain why magician's summon waterstone and ring of flight don't use reagents for EB/Levitate. Because they are instant cast. Yet shaman potions and other clicks that aren't instant, do use reagents.

Bumping. This seems to be a logical connection.

There was also a long standing issue where Bards wouldn't use reagent on any item click. I would imagine it stems from this issue here as well. Since Bards don't have actual "casting" phase, cause bard. On Mac server it was common knowledge and many Bards used the PoK Gate neck which required a reagent for everyone else, except Bards (it had a cast time).

[eisley]

Originally Posted by Luniz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Levitate potions from alchemy require a batwing

Druid boots require a batwing

what is this madness

Originally Posted by Daldaen

Pegasus Cloak, uses Levitation. This is a spell with no reagent. Levitate, the spell casters and priests get, is an entirely different spell and it requires a bat wing reagent. This is why you can stack Levitation and Levitate, they are different spell effects in different slots.