Project 1999, Daybreak, and Velious

[Bulcan]

Originally Posted by Beldan4 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm so happy for you guys that have run P1999 for so long. Having vellious pushed back is a very small price to pay for getting a WRITTEN agreement from people at daybreak. It must have been INCREADIBLE stress for you guys to have had to work under knowing that at anytime a lawsuit could have been dropped in your lap, or a declalration for you to shut down having all of your work and time go right down the drain. Gratz on moving to more legit and less stress state.

Do you really think if the SOE had any legal basis for a lawsuit that it wouldn't had started it already? Seriously?
This server steals quite an amount of potential cash from SOE and owners of p99 are idiots for agreeing to this...

[Pufferfish]

Originally Posted by Bulcan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you really think if the SOE had any legal basis for a lawsuit that it wouldn't had started it already? Seriously?
This server steals quite an amount of potential cash from SOE and owners of p99 are idiots for agreeing to this...

How so?

1) I hadn't played EverQuest for YEARS before I discovered P1999. If P1999 were to disappear tonight, I would not be back on EQ Live. I'm sure 99% of the player base is the same.

2) EverQuest Live is a free-to-play game with a cash shop. P1999 has no cash shop. Are you thinking that players will not only flock back to EQ Live, but also start buying cosmetic fluff? (Hence the "potential cash" loss you are talking about)

3) A Progression server is not a Classic server. They're not competing products.
I played on an EQ Live Progression server before, it ended badly. The Progression server eventually merged with my regular server and erased over 200,000 Plat in my shared bank. Their "support" said there was no record of me ever having that money, so I must be a scammer. Which in turn changed my desire to return to EQ Live to absolute zero - See Point #1.

Daybreak would gain nothing by putting legal muscle on P1999. It certainly wouldn't cause players, who quit EQ Live years before P1999 even existed, to come back to EQ Live.

One of the reasons SoE lost a lot of their playerbase is because they loved to troll their own customers. People remember that stuff. Don't forget, SoE also had an awesome chance to bring back a lot of old players when EverQuest went free-to-play, and they completely blew it with the overly restricted 'free membership'. Which they fixed too little too late, that massive wave of returning players was gone by then.

Daybreak is a new company, so I honestly hope they don't repeat the mistakes of SoE and wish them all the luck in the world with the EverQuest franchise.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Pufferfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How so?

1) I hadn't played EverQuest for YEARS before I discovered P1999. If P1999 were to disappear tonight, I would not be back on EQ Live. I'm sure 99% of the player base is the same.

2) EverQuest Live is a free-to-play game with a cash shop. P1999 has no cash shop. Are you thinking that players will not only flock back to EQ Live, but also start buying cosmetic fluff? (Hence the "potential cash" loss you are talking about)

3) A Progression server is not a Classic server. They're not competing products.
I played on an EQ Live Progression server before, it ended badly. The Progression server eventually merged with my regular server and erased over 200,000 Plat in my shared bank. Their "support" said there was no record of me ever having that money, so I must be a scammer. Which in turn changed my desire to return to EQ Live to absolute zero - See Point #1.

Daybreak would gain nothing by putting legal muscle on P1999. It certainly wouldn't cause players, who quit EQ Live years before P1999 even existed, to come back to EQ Live.

One of the reasons SoE lost a lot of their playerbase is because they loved to troll their own customers. People remember that stuff. Don't forget, SoE also had an awesome chance to bring back a lot of old players when EverQuest went free-to-play, and they completely blew it with the overly restricted 'free membership'. Which they fixed too little too late, that massive wave of returning players was gone by then.

Daybreak is a new company, so I honestly hope they don't repeat the mistakes of SoE and wish them all the luck in the world with the EverQuest franchise.

Nail + Hit on the head

Yep, you did it. SoE is a shit troll company, just like Blizzard. Both may come out with good games, but they screw it up ALL THE TIME!

I quit Live in 2004 ish. I lost my corpse to a bug and GMs, Customer Service and more wouldn't help me get it back. I will never look back in regards to playing that version. I wish there were more lawsuits to destroy that company. EFF them.

[Jarlon]

The great differance about live from P99 was the GM's on live sucked, so you could train and KS without ever getting caught. All the PnP policies were in place for the people that would follow them out of fear , to reduce petitions. They were never actually enforced.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Jarlon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The great differance about live from P99 was the GM's on live sucked, so you could train and KS without ever getting caught. All the PnP policies were in place for the people that would follow them out of fear , to reduce petitions. They were never actually enforced.

That depended on the server and the era. Especially earlier in the history of the game you could get pretty good response from server GMs and most guides. I used to hang out in Oasis on an alt sometimes just to petition the punks who liked to train the noobs XPing along the beach. Griefing griefers is fun, they are some of the saltiest people on earth and it's a completely guiltless pleasure.

[Lyrren]

Yep, you did it. SoE is a shit troll company, just like Blizzard. Both may come out with good games, but they screw it up ALL THE TIME!

Except now we have Daybreak who are determined to milk all us cash cows for all we are are worth, the "FTP" is now money up front if you want to play on Ragefire. After paying for years of subscriptions and expansions can I please say to all my fellow EQ fans DO NOT DO IT AGAIN, just for what we can have here, lovingly maintained.

Daybreak's attitude to Ragefire has made me seriously consider any ongoing relationship with EQ Next (and I paid for a Landmark Foundation Pack).

I am sorry for the P1999 guys hit by the ten ton Daybreak hammer but they never had a chance. This is how it goes, Daybreak belong to Columbus Nova (a nothing US investment company) and they belong to the Renova Group (a Russian conglomerate).

Brad McQuaid all is forgiven, bring back "the vision".

[pharmakos]

sony wasn't a multinational conglomerate?