Pvp policy circa merger 2005 (all pvp server top guilds signed)

[vouss]

lol

[Buhbuh]

ya, im pretty certain almost everyone during that time zoned/ warped away from pvp when nearly dying.

that "agreement" is probably why PDM still exists.

[Stasis01]

Gona report this thread to that new forum moderator who can ban in-game.

Only one way to clean up Red99 and it's with the help of the new staff.

[red99playing]

Originally Posted by Zlain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if ~ALL~ you want is PvP why are you not playing Quake? Unreal tournament? Why are you playing Elf Sim?

I would also like to know the answer to this.

[BardPop]

No top guild signed that except pandemonium, which already had an alliance with defiant. There was actually quite an uproar on the hate forums at defiant trying make this policy for zek, and many people, including me, called for them to be shut down Pvp because of it.The server pnp proposed by defiant was a reflection of how they conducted themselves on VZ, and differed from both Tz and Rz. Tz had no real pnp except pdm would pvp raid any guild they wanted to shut down, and Rallos zek had a pnp but it was more lenient then defiant's proposed policy. Defiant's sought to influence when a player could engage in pvp

So because of the pnp variations in the two pnps, defiant came to see Rzs pnp as basically a dishonorable way to avoid pvp

Defiant member quoted here: Stop making excuses for your inability and dishonour to pvp without mobs. Your above post basically makes out that we can't fight defiant in pvp, so we'll have to resort to tactics that are against the pnp to stand a chance.

Don't for one second think if Defiant is about to engage a mob, and 40-50 Ascending Dawn zone in that we won't immediately stop what we are doing and come give you some fun pvp, because we will. I'm talking about the kind of trash behaviour a few members of those guilds seem to think its fine to go with.

Ascending Dawn has the same level of gear as Defiant yet is continually destroyed in pvp when it comes anywhere close to similar numbers. Therefore Mass PVP is not about numbers, it must be about something else. Perhaps its experience, i'll be pretty flat out when I say between VZ and TZ, i'm very sure that VZ has alot more guilds on some degree of similarity when it comes to gear that pvp'd one another Regularly than existed on RZ (until the release of the US WoW/EQ2).

The reason RZ's ruleset is the 'trash' that it is, is because your top guild (Ascending Dawn) encourages blue server behaviour, it wants mob Rotations, it wants everyone to live together in happy land where there is no conflict over mobs and you all agree to a calendar for mobs. When they can't get their way, they are resorting to low life trains and griefing, blatently disregarding the PnP to do anything they can to win.

They don't want to fight for mobs in any kind of honourable combat, in fact they have already proven, if they can't have their 'rotation' they will resort to whatever grief tactics they can.

Does anyone here think that 4 people present a force 'capable of standing a chance at the CBQ encounter?' no, of course we don't. How about 7 ? or a combination of around 14-17 Ascending Dawn/Destiny of Zek and Echo of Destruction ? of course you don't. You people are children living in lala land, throwing your dummies out of the pram because mommy won't buy you a lolipop.

Well, thats fine, because we will force feed you pvp, much like a child who doesn't want to eat their dinner, you will eat it, and hopefully you will learn to enjoy pvp rather than be so bitter and distasteul about it.

Don't think for one second that Defiant doesn't want PvP - talk to Ancient Dawn, we've pvp'd one another for several years, and asides from a very few incidents, its been mostly fun - sure, there is rivalry, but its friendly rivalry on the most part, and pvp is clean. We both want a mob, we fight for it, the loser cedes the zone, maybe its because both guilds are mature enough to take defeat with grace and laugh about it in tells, maybe its because Ancient Dawn and Defiant aren't such sore losers.

My view: Pnp shouldn't be unclear, if a player is engaged on mobs there needs to be either A) A global agreement that players engaged in mobs are fair game or B) a global agreement that a player engaged on mobs (aka fighting and doing damage) is not fair game and cannot be attacked until the mob is dead, and if that happens what is to say the player won't see the pk ahead of time and start running for a zone with a mob on him? Are they fair game then? Pnp should seek to answer all these questions so players can avoid suspensions and bans.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by BardPop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No top guild signed that except pandemonium, which already had an alliance with defiant. There was actually quite an uproar on the hate forums at defiant trying make this policy for zek, and many people, including me, called for them to be shut down Pvp because of it.The server pnp proposed by defiant was a reflection of how they conducted themselves on VZ, and differed from both Tz and Rz. Tz had no real pnp except pdm would pvp raid any guild they wanted to shut down, and Rallos zek had a pnp but it was more lenient then defiant's proposed policy. Defiant's sought to influence when a player could engage in pvp

So because of the pnp variations in the two pnps, defiant came to see Rzs pnp as basically a dishonorable way to avoid pvp

Defiant member quoted here: Stop making excuses for your inability and dishonour to pvp without mobs. Your above post basically makes out that we can't fight defiant in pvp, so we'll have to resort to tactics that are against the pnp to stand a chance.

Don't for one second think if Defiant is about to engage a mob, and 40-50 Ascending Dawn zone in that we won't immediately stop what we are doing and come give you some fun pvp, because we will. I'm talking about the kind of trash behaviour a few members of those guilds seem to think its fine to go with.

Ascending Dawn has the same level of gear as Defiant yet is continually destroyed in pvp when it comes anywhere close to similar numbers. Therefore Mass PVP is not about numbers, it must be about something else. Perhaps its experience, i'll be pretty flat out when I say between VZ and TZ, i'm very sure that VZ has alot more guilds on some degree of similarity when it comes to gear that pvp'd one another Regularly than existed on RZ (until the release of the US WoW/EQ2).

The reason RZ's ruleset is the 'trash' that it is, is because your top guild (Ascending Dawn) encourages blue server behaviour, it wants mob Rotations, it wants everyone to live together in happy land where there is no conflict over mobs and you all agree to a calendar for mobs. When they can't get their way, they are resorting to low life trains and griefing, blatently disregarding the PnP to do anything they can to win.

They don't want to fight for mobs in any kind of honourable combat, in fact they have already proven, if they can't have their 'rotation' they will resort to whatever grief tactics they can.

Does anyone here think that 4 people present a force 'capable of standing a chance at the CBQ encounter?' no, of course we don't. How about 7 ? or a combination of around 14-17 Ascending Dawn/Destiny of Zek and Echo of Destruction ? of course you don't. You people are children living in lala land, throwing your dummies out of the pram because mommy won't buy you a lolipop.

Well, thats fine, because we will force feed you pvp, much like a child who doesn't want to eat their dinner, you will eat it, and hopefully you will learn to enjoy pvp rather than be so bitter and distasteul about it.

Don't think for one second that Defiant doesn't want PvP - talk to Ancient Dawn, we've pvp'd one another for several years, and asides from a very few incidents, its been mostly fun - sure, there is rivalry, but its friendly rivalry on the most part, and pvp is clean. We both want a mob, we fight for it, the loser cedes the zone, maybe its because both guilds are mature enough to take defeat with grace and laugh about it in tells, maybe its because Ancient Dawn and Defiant aren't such sore losers.

My view: Pnp shouldn't be unclear, if a player is engaged on mobs there needs to be either A) A global agreement that players engaged in mobs are fair game or B) a global agreement that a player engaged on mobs (aka fighting and doing damage) is not fair game and cannot be attacked until the mob is dead, and if that happens what is to say the player won't see the pk ahead of time and start running for a zone with a mob on him? Are they fair game then? Pnp should seek to answer all these questions so players can avoid suspensions and bans.

anyone gona read this?


nope

[Zalaerian]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

anyone gona read this?


nope

[rollin5k]

I think the reason some people like eq PvP is because they are able to get people upset.

I also think they lack the coordination to aim.

[Fang]

I would rather deny LnS and sit on someone's corpse than let them come back 1 hour later with their gear and raid buffs to try to PVP my group again. LnS needs to go.

[Doors]

Seems blue as fuck to me.