Welcome to Class C! <Haggard Krew> !

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meaningful change would be to push well tooled guilds with muchos VP keys into C [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And tools like yourself off the forums.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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u sizzling there?

[Detoxx]

Double post, ravager confirmed mad.

[Ravager]

Indubitably.

[Fael]

Im not sure I would say that BDA had nothing to do with the reason for changing the raid scene.

It's clear that Rogean and nilbog fealt sorry for BDA. They had a very large population of casual, low information players who literally had Zero confidence to attempt any target at all, even on Repops. The class system was created to provide them a safety net.

Keep in mind however that changing VP to a csr zone was a separate change altogether. Tasslehoff campaigned for years about that issue in particular. Although FE did a good job competing outside, they had no shot inside Vp. So I think it is fair to credit FE with that change.

In the end, the change in Vp turned out to be the greater evil. Although FE deserves credit for effecting the change through actual efforts in game, and not merely through a forum lobby.

[Troubled]

Let's cry moar about BDA getting 1/10th of the pixels and think we know what we're talking about when discussing a threshold for pushing guilds into C.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not even close. Tactility we must figure out the best 2 C mobs outside of VP, kill them both before TMO/Rampage comes out. Its a max 30 min to do the whole job. We know that the looser(or maybe winner) of VP will come rolling out very fast and wanting the best outside the peak as well. It is highly competitive. The guilds we are up against are highly skilled, highly geared, and highly organized. If we fuck up during this magical earthquake, we get nothing likely till the next earthquake.

Asgard is a casual guild forced into playing competitively.

Your guild doesn't even compete with your peer (taken). Prefers to crush and frustrate others so much that it looks like a better option to go up against TMO/Rapage for a snipe time to time.

Anyways welcome to C haggard, you gotta play smart, you can't just throw 100 members in a zone with 15 hours left in window like they do in R.

that was one sweet bitch slap, right there.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Slithor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does BDA come to every thread and spam post that they're beacons of light?

Because they are obsessed with maintaining aggro?

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's cry moar about BDA getting 1/10th of the pixels and think we know what we're talking about when discussing a threshold for pushing guilds into C.

Everyone got 1/10 pixels, and teaming up got 1/2 to 1/3 loot per raid. Sorry you got too many mouths to feed.

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by Kayso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Care to explain how you "fixed" things for Azure Guard, Indignation, etc?

Sure,

We've helped Indignation sharpened their edges for winter. Fantastic work on the recent VS and Talendor kills. Azure Guard and others can now ally and kill whatever they want without taking advantage of the system. Class R has been liberated!