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[quellren]

Originally Posted by Uberom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JFK died championing the fight against political corruption. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

MLK Jr. died championing the fight against social injustice and racism. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

Nobody ever makes an attempt to discredit Jesus, which is ironic because he is the one we know LEAST about.

Your /facepalm broke upon impact.

/served

They? Who the fuck is they? Are you one of those conspiracy theorists that believes a secret society runs the world?

1st: No one to this day agrees *why* JFK was assassinated. Seriously, there are people who have dedicated their lives to it. nearly 50 years later it's been offered up as possibly 'The question of the 20th century'
Theories range from the most plausible 'nutjob with an axe to grind' to the laughable 'he wanted to bring the Hoover-esque CIA to heel plus end Vietnam' to the truly outlandish 'He was a member of the Illuminati gone rogue and needed to be silenced'.
He wasn't a martyr if people can't agree what he died for.

2nd: MLK- One crazy guy with an inordinately large streak of racism (and a large criminal record) acted out of rage against another person with an opposing ideal. I'm starting to think you need to hit up Webster-Merriam to re-acquaint yourself with the term martyr before we continue this discussion.

I in NO WAY want to discount what Martin Luther King Jr. had to say, or the equality he fought for, but make no mistake, he never offered to die for it.

No one discredits Jesus' martyrdom, because according to the bible, he actually VOLUNTEERED to die for a cause.

I'm gonna let it go. I pretty much put this thing into the 'for shits-n-giggles' column when you compared your hissy-fit over a video game to the fight for civil rights.

It's been fun.

[Uberom]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They? Who the fuck is they? Are you one of those conspiracy theorists that believes a secret society runs the world?

1st: No one to this day agrees *why* JFK was assassinated. Seriously, there are people who have dedicated their lives to it. nearly 50 years later it's been offered up as possibly 'The question of the 20th century'
Theories range from the most plausible 'nutjob with an axe to grind' to the laughable 'he wanted to bring the Hoover-esque CIA to heel plus end Vietnam' to the truly outlandish 'He was a member of the Illuminati gone rogue and needed to be silenced'.
He wasn't a martyr if people can't agree what he died for.

2nd: MLK- One crazy guy with an inordinately large streak of racism (and a large criminal record) acted out of rage against another person with an opposing ideal. I'm starting to think you need to hit up Webster-Merriam to re-acquaint yourself with the term martyr before we continue this discussion.

I in NO WAY want to discount what Martin Luther King Jr. had to say, or the equality he fought for, but make no mistake, he never offered to die for it.

No one discredits Jesus' martyrdom, because according to the bible, he actually VOLUNTEERED to die for a cause.

I'm gonna let it go. I pretty much put this thing into the 'for shits-n-giggles' column when you compared your hissy-fit over a video game to the fight for civil rights.

It's been fun.

I didnt compare the events, I compared the ideology behind them..

"What is popular is not always right, what is right is not always popular."

Hence, I wrote the theme statement to be recognized directly after the comparison.

Also..there is not one definition for martyr. There are quite a few.

This is directly from Oxford English dictionary....something you probably don't have free access to.

2. a. In extended (esp. non-religious) contexts: a person who undergoes death or great suffering for a faith, belief, or cause, or (usu. with to; also with of, for) through devotion to some object

I think that sufficiently ends that debate.

As to the question of "they". I think it is pretty obvious that if a mystery on the scale of such is not solved, then the government has something to do with it. To think that in an age we live in , we couldn't solve a murder if we put the resources to it, is just naive. Someone out there knows, and if I did, I wouldn't be the type of person to play EQ. I would probably be in some D.C. office regulating our national government.

Sir, your efforts were valiant, but in vain.