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Old 04-08-2015, 03:16 PM
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yeah, i have no idea what he's talking about or where he's going with this. there's a class that can already solo without their epic, and their epic allows them to solo slightly more efficiently after level 50, and that alone makes it more class defining than other epics.

i think that deserves a solid 10th out of 14 on my list. if the only requirement is that it lets you solo easier the druid epic alone beats the shaman epic, lol.
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Old 04-08-2015, 03:37 PM
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yeah, i have no idea what he's talking about or where he's going with this. there's a class that can already solo without their epic, and their epic allows them to solo slightly more efficiently after level 50, and that alone makes it more class defining than other epics.

i think that deserves a solid 10th out of 14 on my list. if the only requirement is that it lets you solo easier the druid epic alone beats the shaman epic, lol.
disagree. A shaman simply cannot do what he can with his epic.

however some people only think about lvl 60 best in slot as the only factor that matters about anything.. so without a doubt a lvl 60 shaman with bis gear doesnt even need an epic anymore.

But leveling a shaman with an epic vs leveling a shama without an epic is as different as leveling a shaman vs leveling a mage or some other class.. so to me that is class defining because it drastically changes what you do with the class.

but whatever ive never played a bard with an epic.

I just disagree with yall and thats it
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Old 04-08-2015, 03:44 PM
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disagree. A shaman simply cannot do what he can with his epic.
wait, shaman epic is a raid buff now?

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But leveling a shaman with an epic vs leveling a shama without an epic is as different as leveling a shaman vs leveling a mage
no not really considering levelling a mage with epic pet would probably be more sweet than levelling a shaman with epic dot
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Old 04-08-2015, 03:57 PM
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I think people tend to forget that Mage epic is a spell. You can die and summon a new epic to help with a CR. No other class can let their corpse rot without worrying about losing your pixels.
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Old 04-08-2015, 08:17 PM
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no not really considering levelling a mage with epic pet would probably be more sweet than levelling a shaman with epic dot
I don't know what you mean about the raid buff jab. But It's true a Mage would prob be able to solo as well as a shaman if he had an epic and would essentially change the way the Mage is played too I concede that.

The shaman being able to output as much mana free dps as he's able to with an epic makes it more than just 'another' dot.. Or even more than just a free dot.

They simply wouldn't be the solo master class they are with out the epic, period.

But like I said I don't agree and that's just that, I think the shaman epic is more class defining than bard or cleric.
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Old 04-08-2015, 08:21 PM
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I don't know what you mean about the raid buff jab. But It's true a Mage would prob be able to solo as well as a shaman if he had an epic and would essentially change the way the Mage is played too I concede that.

The shaman being able to output as much mana free dps as he's able to with an epic makes it more than just 'another' dot.. Or even more than just a free dot.

They simply wouldn't be the solo master class they are with out the epic, period.

But like I said I don't agree and that's just that, I think the shaman epic is more class defining than bard or cleric.
agreed, magician epic is INSANE but your options to do raw soloing dont really go up, you just become a more faster and efficient soloer, such as seafuries, droga, etc
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