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Old 12-03-2010, 04:39 PM
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RapidScotch- How could you forget me, and that wonderful night in Lguk?! /cry
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Old 12-03-2010, 04:42 PM
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Awesome post^
This was referring to Winobot's post.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:05 PM
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This was referring to Winobot's post.
You guys don't like reading my posts, yet you read them, and comment on them? Cool.

Most of you are missing the point. I see I am dealing with people of lesser intelligence. Cool.

The only one who has brought up a point that is even close to pertinent is Uthgaard, who also happens to be the most likely person to ban me.

To his point: I can only suggest that when a GM is going to decide something arbitrarily, /random is used. I have never seen a dance off decision between players. I have never seen players flip a platinum piece for a decision. I assumed that he would make us roll, and my assumptions were correct. Hence, when he said that line, I immediately flipped out because it confirmed my suspicions of how the situation will play out.

If you don't like the point I'm bringing up, and you have no problems with camps or the server in general, then get the fuck off this thread. I could care less what a brigade of level 30 druids who reside in ECTunnels 90% of the time think about Everquest.

This thread is not here for you to critique the manner in which I am trying to make logical points. If you think I am "bitching", then go to the fucking lame ass threads and play grab ass with Tralina, this is a thread for the big boys. There are some real issues that need to be addressed regarding camps and rules. I feel, actually I know, that my camp was stolen and my situation treated unfairly. Stealing a camp requires time, and VD wasted my time that night, yet I was never compensated with their penalization. And yet, I am being penalized for doing the exact same thing they did, only trying to make a point about it. Did I ACTUALLY injure Meghx from VD in any way? No, I simply helped him kill cyclops' faster.

The funny thing is, I don't see any of you in game camping high level shit like what I usually am doing. Most of you don't even belong on this thread. And it still stands, when this shit happens to you, you would react like I did now. The difference between me and most of you, is that I have the intelligence to articulate my argument so that it makes sense, and provokes inquiry. Hence, the fucking developer of the game comes on the thread and has to clean up a messy situation.

Let me end on a good note, though, because I think I have made every possible argument, and there is nothing left to try and convince baddies of the truth and logic.

To Hobby and Uthgaard and the rest of DEV, thanks for all the time you guys put in to the server. Regardless of anything I've said, don't take offense to it as a personal attack, as it is only to achieve my goal of making people understand what exactly happened. I truly believe that some server rules need to be reestablished and/or reworked because situations like these are bullshit. Might doesn't make right. I was robbed of an important spawn, and I'm now suspended for challenging the decision and trying to make a universal point.

Most martyrs die for what they believe in. Case in point:

JFK
Jesus
MLK Jr.

And usually, they are opposed by the masses (in this case a brigade of level 30 Druid forum trolls) even though they are fighting for righteousness.

What is right is not always popular, what is popular is not always right.

You all stand corrected.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:08 PM
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Lol @ important spawn.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:09 PM
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Most martyrs die for what they believe in. Case in point:

JFK
Jesus
MLK Jr.
/facepalm

I'm very eager to hear some justification for the first and third examples.
Maybe you wanna throw Abraham Lincoln in there as the last nail in the coffin?
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:14 PM
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/facepalm

I'm very eager to hear some justification for the first and third examples.
Maybe you wanna throw Abraham Lincoln in there as the last nail in the coffin?
JFK and MLK Jr. were both assassinated fighting for causes they believed to be righteous, and in hindsight, we as a society now accept those causes to be righteous.

I can continue the history lesson, if you need it...

/facepalm back at you.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:26 PM
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JFK and MLK Jr. were both assassinated fighting for causes they believed to be righteous, and in hindsight, we as a society now accept those causes to be righteous.

I can continue the history lesson, if you need it...

/facepalm back at you.
Nevermind. The confusion came because I thought you knew what martyred meant. My fault.

Neither JFK nor MLK were martyrs. Posterity has, in many ways, chosen to link the death of Martin Luther King with the dire need of civil rights equality, but he was not a martyr.
I'm still not sure what you think JFK died championing.

I'll retain my original /facepalm at you.
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Old 12-03-2010, 06:23 PM
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Nevermind. The confusion came because I thought you knew what martyred meant. My fault.

Neither JFK nor MLK were martyrs. Posterity has, in many ways, chosen to link the death of Martin Luther King with the dire need of civil rights equality, but he was not a martyr.
I'm still not sure what you think JFK died championing.

I'll retain my original /facepalm at you.
JFK died championing the fight against political corruption. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

MLK Jr. died championing the fight against social injustice and racism. They assassinated him. Or do you believe otherwise?

Nobody ever makes an attempt to discredit Jesus, which is ironic because he is the one we know LEAST about.

Your /facepalm broke upon impact.

/served
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:18 PM
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The only one who has brought up a point that is even close to pertinent is Uthgaard, who also happens to be the most likely person to ban me.
LOL. True story, but it's far more effective to continue to let you speak.

Next time someone comes here with a half-told sob story that people buy into, they'll have a prime example of what kind of person is telling it. No one ruled against you, or in favor of anyone else. Comparing yourself to JFK, MLK, and Jesus? Hilarious. You crucified yourself.

I'm going to make something really clear though. Babysitting camp disputes is not a server priority. When shit goes wrong through no fault of a player, that's what we're here to fix. When you cause problems for yourselves, one of the two is going to come out of it full of piss and vinegar.

You don't have to like the resolution. But you do have to do it.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:27 PM
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LOL. True story, but it's far more effective to continue to let you speak.

Next time someone comes here with a half-told sob story that people buy into, they'll have a prime example of what kind of person is telling it. No one ruled against you, or in favor of anyone else. Comparing yourself to JFK, MLK, and Jesus? Hilarious. You crucified yourself.

I'm going to make something really clear though. Babysitting camp disputes is not a server priority. When shit goes wrong through no fault of a player, that's what we're here to fix. When you cause problems for yourselves, one of the two is going to come out of it full of piss and vinegar.

You don't have to like the resolution. But you do have to do it.
Half-told sob story. Damn. I though I wrote a book on the subject so far. In fact, however, my story is the only version that is full and accurate. You made one point with your detail that I raged, but that doesn't discredit the solution that Hobby wanted to employ, which ironically, somehow I knew the situation would end that way.

I knew people would take my example of martyrdom and flame at it. In logic its called "argumentum ad hominim" which, in Latin, mean "argument against the person". Logicians call these types of arguments logical fallacies. I lost some of you at this point, its ok, just go log on your druid. Most of these community trolls are making arguments against me, not the camp dispute. At least you tried, but I think my argument would have won in any court, except P1999 of course. The reason of not having time to deal with player disputes isn't sufficient for dealing with them unfairly. If you guys don't have the time to deal with player disputes, make me a GM, and I will gladly write server rules that are thorough and take into account unique camps like Efreeti. I think I've already exhibited the skills required to come to logical decisions.

As for the rest of you, keep flaming. My argument stands and still kills all of your nonchalant comments about "uberom this" and "uberom that".

You baddies are getting srsly raped.
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