Shaman race debate

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using canni 3 (and assuming the 100 to 47 value on wiki is accurate), at 59 a standing ogre gets ~34 mana per minute while a standing troll gets ~67 mana per minute. If you're missing a lot of med ticks because you're scrambling to keep everything rooted/dotted or you're busy positioning, this is a ridiculous difference. It's a 47 mana per minute difference if you're hitting every med tick.

I'm trying to follow your logic, but having trouble.

Fights don't normally last that long, so can we say a minute is a reasonable average length? If so we're talking about regen Shaman having 47 more mana a fight than a non-regen Shaman. That's about 1/5 of an ice strike, or about 120 direct damage. Maybe a bit more if you use a DoT instead.

Now if we consider fighting a Seafury Cyclops (a green to a 59 shaman), they have 4700 HP. So the difference between a regen shaman and a non-regen shaman is ... 1/40th of a (green) mob's hit points. Perhaps 1/30th if you use a DoT instead (too lazy to calculate).

I just don't see a very convincing argument there: an extra 1/30th of a green mob's HP per fight isn't a very strong reason to pick a race. But to be fair, I'd expect a similar calculation of frontal stun immunity's benefits to be just as unimpressive.

Seems to me the real moral of this story is that neither racial benefit really matters that much, at level 59 at least.