Blade of Carnage drop on beta

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It boggles my mind how some of you think he could be killable in BiS Kunark gear.

The Avatar of War has a max hit of 704 against a defensive warrior. If he got unbelievably incredibly lucky, and got 8 attack rounds with 8 hits and 8 max hits, he would still not 1-round a tank with 5617 HP. Kunark tanks are damn close to this right now.

Guilds had trouble tanking him in Velious because of their shitty internet connections. If your CH chain gets lagged out for 1s (easy to do in 2000) and he gets 2-3 attack rounds in, your tank is going to die.

I personally would like to see AoW buffed a bit compared to his beta stats, but the reality is if his stats are anything close to classic he's going to die on day one to a 200 man zerg.

You really need to accept the fact that we have better GUIs, better internet connections, and more experience at this game than people did in 2000 and let go of the butthurt.

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guilds had trouble tanking him in Velious because of their shitty internet connections. If your CH chain gets lagged out for 1s (easy to do in 2000) and he gets 2-3 attack rounds in, your tank is going to die.

I personally would like to see AoW buffed a bit compared to his beta stats, but the reality is if his stats are anything close to classic he's going to die on day one to a 200 man zerg.

You really need to accept the fact that we have better GUIs, better internet connections, and more experience at this game than people did in 2000 and let go of the butthurt.

Please tell me, in what game do you take the BiS gear from a previous expansion and go straight to the bosses of the next expansion and kill them on day fucking 1?

The developers at Verant/Sony would have been fired if this ever happened (some of them were anyway).

They must of had connections strung with wire and duct tape at their offices during their pre-beta testing, thats why they couldn't kill AoW with their BiS Kunark gears!!

Yes, you have more experience on P1999, however that is not experience from an actual Verant server.

GTFO with the butthurt, sorry I side with the NPC's more than the Players.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please tell me, in what game do you take the BiS gear from a previous expansion and go straight to the bosses of the next expansion and kill them on day fucking 1?

Our situation here is a somewhat unique because we have prior knowledge of the expansion.

Originally Posted by Treats

GTFO with the butthurt, sorry I side with the NPC's more than the Players.

I don't know how else to describe your emotional appeals to the intentions of Verant's developers rather than the actual mechanics they created.

[Tankdan]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please tell me, in what game do you take the BiS gear from a previous expansion and go straight to the bosses of the next expansion and kill them on day fucking 1?

The developers at Verant/Sony would have been fired if this ever happened (some of them were anyway).

They must of had connections strung with wire and duct tape at their offices during their pre-beta testing, thats why they couldn't kill AoW with their BiS Kunark gears!!

Yes, you have more experience on P1999, however that is not experience from an actual Verant server.

GTFO with the butthurt, sorry I side with the NPC's more than the Players.

You're giving EQ mobs way too much credit. And the AoW kill on beta people were getting AOE rezzed, it DID rek the tanks. It was a wipe by all means. If 140 epic'd people cant zerge it in the unthinkable gear they had, you cannot sit here and say its undertuned. His max hits are well known, his HP is known, after that it is a mana and numbers game.

We're playing a whole different EQ right now. Raids have 80 reapers, 30+ soullfires, 20+ charged mallets to hand out, and all kinds of tricks up their sleeve. No, it is not that hard. Yes it was hard back in the day because people were a lot less hardcore than they are now. No guild on EQClassic even comes close to the effort / time / dedication needed to raid Class C on P99. Who cares what some guild did or didn't do in 2000, I don't. I just want accurate numbers reflected. It wasn't meant to be harder.