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Old 11-30-2010, 02:55 PM
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As cool as this is, and how it can help other extreme health situations, I wouldnt want to see the world never-dying out of natural causes.

Our population is already over expanded no?
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:59 PM
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Do you want to take it away from them?
If only it were that simple. Communication would be a lot easier if you could just grab and place ideas impromptu.

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For example, what if you're facing your dad and he's hurt because of a loss, and he turns to his religion to find council. Would you seriously approach him and tell him that he's acting irrationally and that his religion is just him willing away the pain of loss? I ask you this because i've faced many predicaments like this. It's one thing to think that religion is insanity and it's quite another to say this to somebody in tears who will only understand a fraction of what you're saying. It feels pointless to me to fight against the mass ocean of emotions and limits that exist inside people. If religion is his medicine, then I won't interrupt him. I'll only interrupt him when I feel his religion is directly hurting someone in an obvious way.
Being raised Buddhist, I have to say I still respect religion of others due to learned behavior. But semantically, I see no difference from religion and the bottom of an alcohol bottle. You're just juxtaposing the pain for something else. We are superb at escapism, that's undeniably an evolved coping mechanism. There is an actual building postulation about some forms of insanity being nothing more than a retrovirus from ages ago.

So in an answer to your example? I respect the individual's belief, but I'd also like to know the efficacy of that persons choice to rely on a deity and communion versus just simply stabbing themselves in the leg with an epinephrine (or exercising) and trying to think about why they were so sad in the first place.

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I am not going to stand up in the middle of the sermons and proclaim that this religious ceremony is foolish and that the person in the coffin is officially dead and that there's no afterlife and that wasting our time worrying about the dead is not productive because nothing we do can bring them back or give justice to them.
There's really nothing to stop you from doing such a thing except learned behavior (kindness to others in some social setting.) We also fear opposition, so it's difficult to be pragmatic about it. Funerals and memorials are like any other celebration, they just bring people together and distract.
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:04 PM
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As cool as this is, and how it can help other extreme health situations, I wouldnt want to see the world never-dying out of natural causes.

Our population is already over expanded no?
Insurance companies have already crunched the numbers for us, as far as living forever. I don't have the numbers handy, but I recall something like on average people would still die of mortal injury every 60-120 years (averaged.)

Our population will continue to expand until a point where they are so many viruses and diseases in central locations, that it'll all equal itself out eventually. Don't worry about it, the world will never be too full of one particular animal.
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:24 PM
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I have to flame you for regurgitating those painful credulous headlines, hasbinbad. If you call yourself a "science nerd" you should really be ashamed of posting these fluff pieces (i don't mean the nature article). Not to mention your own statements in the OP, wow holy shit are you wrong.

I encourage you to educate yourself on how to interpret science in the media. Listen to some Skeptic's Guide; it will change your life (assuming you didn't just troll my dick off)
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:33 AM
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I have to flame you for regurgitating those painful credulous headlines, hasbinbad. If you call yourself a "science nerd" you should really be ashamed of posting these fluff pieces (i don't mean the nature article). Not to mention your own statements in the OP, wow holy shit are you wrong.

I encourage you to educate yourself on how to interpret science in the media. Listen to some Skeptic's Guide; it will change your life (assuming you didn't just troll my dick off)
I've worked directly with enzymes and viruses to alter the genes of organisms in a classroom and laboratory setting. I've studied telomeres, and have a basic grasp of the science involved in how they were recognized and what they do. Do you? I'd guess not. If you did, I doubt that you would take this subject so lightly.
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:16 AM
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You guess absolutely wrong. An excellent attempt at argument from authority though, and grats on passing your heat shock lab.
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Old 12-01-2010, 06:26 PM
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Nerd Fight !!!
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Old 12-01-2010, 07:34 PM
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Thanks for posting this,
almost inspires me to get into microbiology.
I'm still young!
Just totally fucking lost in life.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:32 PM
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heat shock lab
Phospholuminescent bacteria was more fun.
ELISAssays were a bit more involved.
Biotech A.S. while I waited to get in to the nursing program was totally worth it.
kthxbye
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:26 AM
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What do you guys think about silver sol?

http://www.silversol.org/

Saw it being promoted on the local religious channel that I watch at night.
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