Velious the kiss of death for pvp

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by pingpong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

I think the main reason is fun. Fun is completely lost in holocaust. It is baffling but despite getting all the loot it seems like the majority of members aren't having much fun. It is a lot like when nihilum was in charge and everyone was bored and only logged in for raids.

<Fresh> is putting fun first. We are creating an environment where people are able to log in and enjoy each others company. We are growing every day, and soon enough we will be tipping the scales with normal people who just want to help each other. We do not just push everyone through the grinder, if someone is going to be an asshole to other guild member we don't feel like they deserve our help, and we let them find another way.

If people really want to see something different on this server they need to make it a reality. Complaining on the forum only accomplishes so much. For every hundred posts we will be lucky to find that one sways someones opinion in another direction. We will speak for ourselves with our actions.

[Rekrul]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This will allow him to get an extra lure or two off. You multiply that by 80, you've got a good shot at a victory. You are not seeing the bigger picture or their objective, and that's why just like God's work, you allowed your guild to be used to zerg Azrael, the only PVP guild on red.

Worry about your own guild, you have a lot of very cool people in it and a very good thing going on. Some of the reddest mofos on this box are currently fresh, not even joking.

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shut the fuck up if anything I used them to exact revenge on your fucking ass you piece of shit i hope you fucking die irl from aids after getting brutally raped

Nice, non-insane response there, i'm sure you're inspiring many people to join your guild.

It really looks like you're putting fun first...

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly the reason the zerg continues to win. People can't give up grudges over ancient history.

<Fresh> is fighting the good fight.

Yes, ancient history, he's totally not the same person.

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly the reason the zerg continues to win. People can't give up grudges over ancient history.

<Fresh> is fighting the good fight.

I think it's ok to hold a grudge against someone that called / emailed me 50 times a day all day a night for a good 3 months about something I had nothing to do with .

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Rekrul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stuff

It's apparent from your posts that you don't really know anything about <Fresh>. We're not bleeding out and dying...actually our roster continues to grow every day. We've lost none of our core members. The few bluebies that have gone to <Holocaust> weren't up to par for us, anyway.

We're closer to being able to legitimately contest than anyone ever has been. If <Fresh> ends up failing it'll be the loss of the server's last, best hope for real contention.

[Not_Kazowi]

What do you expect? This server has always been this way and always will. People cup their nuts in fear so hard here it's gross. Everyone is worried about their ego over emulated elf ques, to go out on a limb and risk losing a pvp battle would mean bringing shame to your family name or something. I've seen some spurts of PVP battles but it usually ends in one side getting emo and quitting.

This is a niche game and server that is going to slowly dwindle away over time. There are not any new younger people coming to play Eq emulator. The rest of us that have been playing this shit for years are falling off the map slowly due to marriage jobs kids etc.

[philjackson]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you expect? This server has always been this way and always will. People cup their nuts in fear so hard here it's gross. Everyone is worried about their ego over emulated elf ques, to go out on a limb and risk losing a pvp battle would mean bringing shame to your family name or something. I've seen some spurts of PVP battles but it usually ends in one side getting emo and quitting.

This is a niche game and server that is going to slowly dwindle away over time. There are not any new younger people coming to play Eq emulator. The rest of us that have been playing this shit for years are falling off the map slowly due to marriage jobs kids etc.

I miss u rexx

anytime u wanna join elfpals u send cast_eq an aim msg, i'll keep this thing running for decades so whenveru wanna pop in u let me know big dawg

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by pingpong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

Friends is composed of some of the best pvpers on the box, I can see plenty of reason why someone would want to join that guild. The problem is that they are the 2nd best guild and don't want to field more than 30 people.

Azrael had a good chance to be up there also, but from what I hear they keep shooting themselves in the foot (hello dkp system used as a recruitment tool when you're not getting loot?).

Fresh is sadly the server's best hope right now, as they are the only guild willing to recruit the amount of people needed to do velious content. Even if Max has stability issues, he's the only one taking the necessary steps to get his guild ready for velious.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by philjackson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I miss u rexx

anytime u wanna join elfpals u send cast_eq an aim msg, i'll keep this thing running for decades so whenveru wanna pop in u let me know big dawg

Gotta respect what you're doing bud I'll drop in sometime

[vouss]

It ain't gonna happen if a 2nd guild popped up started contesting and winning, the landslide of warmbodies would shift from guild #1 to guild #2 after a couple weeks.

When holocaust was first entering veeshans peak and we had a couple throwdowns over Phara Dar it took 2 weeks (1 loss, 1 weekend not contesting) for 10 people to leave Azrael and join Holocaust citing reasons like the core not caring about those who havent gotten "BiS" yet, or the guild being dead.

I personally put a ton of effort into the contesting at that time, - but I really had to drag with me into VP all the people who shortly after left to raid uncontested in holocaust or take a break from r99 untill Azrael found ourselves in a more favorable position again.

[Barladore]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's been over a year since we've seen any real mass PVP and it was only about 2-3 fights between Azrael and Nihilum when Nizz came back. Unfortunately Azrael had to have about 95% of their members online to field 40+ and it wasn't even phasing Nihilum to bring 50+.

I think it might have been better for the server long term if Nihilum had lost those battles and pushed people to the opposition instead of the other way around, but that isn't how it happened.

While there was some mass pvp more recently (mentioned above in Beastagor's post - praise him). This was the most accurate and least bias post you've ever made in regards to that topic. Impressed.