Velious the kiss of death for pvp

[Rekrul]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agree with OP, but the blame lies on the ineptitude of the competition here who would rather fight amongst themselves than the enemy.

If someone is opposed to zerging, you can't reasonably expect them to want to form a zerg to fight your zerg.

Wish az/friends/fresh would merge tho, then we can stop calling holo a zerg and the server can be properly at war.

Gonna have to at least wait until fresh dies tho, since obviously max is still unstable/crazy, anyone who knows him has started to see his psychosis bleeding thru the veil of change and nobility more and more. It's only a matter of time, hopefully holo doesn't get all of fresh's members.

[Lasher]

Azrael is getting braver. I think they will shake things up again

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by Rekrul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone is opposed to zerging, you can't reasonably expect them to want to form a zerg to fight your zerg.

Wish az/friends/fresh would merge tho, then we can stop calling holo a zerg and the server can be properly at war.

Gonna have to at least wait until fresh dies tho, since obviously max is still unstable/crazy, anyone who knows him has started to see his psychosis bleeding thru the veil of change and nobility more and more. It's only a matter of time, hopefully holo doesn't get all of fresh's members.

Come velious I'd like to see these guilds of 20 people try to down any meaningful mob. Holo is ahead of the curve in prepping for velious and the other 3 guilds are snoozing right now.

They need to swallow their anti-zerg pride...because without more members they might as well quit the server and play on devnoob's box where you can do content with less people, or be content with never having any velious loot and farming kunark mobs for the rest of their lives.

[pingpong]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come velious I'd like to see these guilds of 20 people try to down any meaningful mob. Holo is ahead of the curve in prepping for velious and the other 3 guilds are snoozing right now.

They need to swallow their anti-zerg pride...because without more members they might as well quit the server and play on devnoob's box where you can do content with less people, or be content with never having any velious loot and farming kunark mobs for the rest of their lives.

sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by pingpong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

I think the main reason is fun. Fun is completely lost in holocaust. It is baffling but despite getting all the loot it seems like the majority of members aren't having much fun. It is a lot like when nihilum was in charge and everyone was bored and only logged in for raids.

<Fresh> is putting fun first. We are creating an environment where people are able to log in and enjoy each others company. We are growing every day, and soon enough we will be tipping the scales with normal people who just want to help each other. We do not just push everyone through the grinder, if someone is going to be an asshole to other guild member we don't feel like they deserve our help, and we let them find another way.

If people really want to see something different on this server they need to make it a reality. Complaining on the forum only accomplishes so much. For every hundred posts we will be lucky to find that one sways someones opinion in another direction. We will speak for ourselves with our actions.

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by pingpong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

Friends is composed of some of the best pvpers on the box, I can see plenty of reason why someone would want to join that guild. The problem is that they are the 2nd best guild and don't want to field more than 30 people.

Azrael had a good chance to be up there also, but from what I hear they keep shooting themselves in the foot (hello dkp system used as a recruitment tool when you're not getting loot?).

Fresh is sadly the server's best hope right now, as they are the only guild willing to recruit the amount of people needed to do velious content. Even if Max has stability issues, he's the only one taking the necessary steps to get his guild ready for velious.