<Holocaust> loot council debunked

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Lime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DKP doesn't work super well on red servers, as it rewards people just showing up for raids where dkp is awarded. It doesn't reward things like

-scouting/tracking mobs and enemy movements
-pvping for zone control and zone denial
-good players guiding weaker/new players
-controlling specific zones that are important for your guild
-teamwork and passing gear down rather than just selling/trading it
-people hoarding dkp/passing on rot upgrades because they want x prestige item.
-forum quest Public Relations. aka Smedy Spielberg productions
-funneling gear is harder for important classes that you need aka clerics, tanks, and pvp characters.

You can't expect to show up at raids and just clock in to be a body while others are doing the listed above tasks. Whoever does the above tasks will become your "core" players, and raid attendance is only a small percentage of what someone does for a guild.

Velious will change that in that specific classes like clerics, warriors, bards, skilled pullers, support characters, and pvp characters will need to be geared out faster than damage roles that will just need the best weapon and haste they can get for many fights. Guilds will also have a hard time retaining these classes as the most important raiding classes are high burnout classes and assuming multiple raiding guilds on server, the more likely they are to be poached by enemy guilds for pixel packages.

just loling because you actually had to explain this to retards on these boards

the reality is that anything we do as the dominant guild will be interpreted and criticized in ways that people want/ need to see us, hence why that part was added in the recruitment OP. the fact that it was misinterpreted speaks volumes to how little all of you know about velious in general.

you guys are really grasping at straws here

there's like 4 or 5 different criticisms i have for azrael's current system just on the surface, but i dont really care to enumerate them because you're autists who won't/ hardly accomplish anything of note even now

if you have non retards in officer positions doing a loot council, just having that is enormously better than DKP, and that's as basic as it gets.

no one is actually upset with how our guild works

there's always going to be calls people disagree with, either mildly or to a great degree, but that's just the shit you gotta deal with, 'specially in a zerg

u guys gotta shed the mad, get the duke or we win

[Lasher]

"Max melee, push in corner, tank switch you're up Checkraise"

Cant wait to say it

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Max melee, push in corner, tank switch you're up Checkraise"

Cant wait to say it

can't wait for you guys to enter hot and hear "I can't get behind the wall to dodge the ae, there's too many people!" while the other noobs to velious have no idea what that guy is talking about and take damage at full force.

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Max melee, push in corner, tank switch you're up Checkraise"

Cant wait to say it

checkraise not going to be MT or after ranja positions?

[Xantille]

the key is to gear the 5th string human monk first

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Xantille [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the key is to gear the 5th string human monk first

Juggzmcgee?