the server, loot and the way things are

[Noser]

I would rather see some spawn tweakage solutions. For example, randomly resetting all the bosses one day a week like what happened a week or two ago. Sure it's not classic but either is spawn variance. All i'm sayin' is that we should start thinkin' outside the bun here folks!

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two things to say:

First, there is enough of a hardcore population here that a rotation would probably net more loss than you would gain in amount of players on this server. Or you would have people down GM throats 24/7 (See: Inglorious Basterds, Pre-Plane of Hate release. See Divinity, Pre Plane of hate release.) <---[Edit] Probably not as much divinity, but the rotation included PoFear gear clearing, and they wanted theirs, and broke into fear just before the hate release. It also wasn't a secret that they were looking to raid. Point is, its not easy on the gm's for a rotation because without a concrete way to get in, and without anyone to police that concrete way of getting in, you hold other guilds out. Why join <new guild A> when Ib, Divinity, and DA are eating up the planes and no one else can get in?

Edit2: If its not GM enforced, there will be no order, especially when Velious releases, or when new keys for VP are acquired. And the GM's want nothing to do with policing our raiding system atm.

Second: Wait for kunark, content will open up. Trust me. two or even three guilds cannot be at the same pl;aces at once while trying to level and cockblock the other guilds out of gear to keep them down. Targets, not just old world bosses, will free up. Just position yourselves in good spots, and your gtg.

Third: didn't think there would be a third, but if you really want a shot at bosses, plana few nights a week for people to be available, and just watch the trackers. Chances are, if there is a tracker in zone, a mob is imminent or semi-imminent. Put your raid force their and be available for a few hours. Then it's best of luck to you and your skilled players.

Edit3: there really isnt any poopsocking going on, just guilds that can kill shit and they arew killing it, and a small tracking force that helps and rotates in. Fun gear clears when spots to clear are available.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with all your points Taluvil... this is monumental. Eq was never a "fair" game. Sure, you may have had a cute rotation on Karana but you had a Darwinian evolution on all other servers for the most part. Everyone has a different playtime, we all attach different level of importance towards the raiding aspect of this game. If you want a casual guild to get equal share, why not push for instancing the bosses? Seriously. That's how MMO evolved atm with instancing. The argument of casual gamers deserving a shot at end game content at their own pace is what created instancing.

I enjoy raiding because of the competition, I like the race, I like putting something on the line (if we fuck up they get the kill). I also like not wasting my time with people who don't understand that their action causes other people to waste their time. I don't want to tell people how to play. If you have fun fucking around for 9 hours clearing a plane then go for it. I personally would like to do it as fast as possible because really I got better shit to do in RL. People are not only lazy they are also greedy. Rotation is not practical to implement. Guilds will be splitting up to form mini guilds your 10 guild list will soon evolve to 20, then to 30. So what on a 7 day mob you'll need to wait 210 days to get a 2nd shot at the same boss eventually? So instead of pushing for everyone to be miserable (hardcore and casual) if you're serious about keeping it "fair" then the way to go is for every guild to have their own boss whenever they want and NOT about rotating.

Problem with that is it isn't classic EQ, the GM's have made it more than clear that they aren't interested in policing or implementing anything like that. So instead of arguing about what's rightfully yours, why not focus all that energy towards something more productive. Either join a raiding guild that will allow you to experience such content or make a guild to get you there. No one is preventing you to kill Vox or Naggy, the rules are first to engage. Find other people to mobilize and compete or join a guild that's doing so atm. When Kunark comes out, older content will free up and competition will become less of an issue. Between farming the 9839829 items in kunark, finishing your epic, outdoor bosses + end game content etc.. There's plenty of things to do even before the old world bosses.