i dont always start threads, but when i do

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I apologize if I've misunderstood you but what I've taken from the majority of your posts is:

1. Azrael wants good/elite players/ pvp'ers
2. With gear
3. At 60
4. To form a tight nit guild

Sorry but expecting that to come to you without doing any work on the front end (teaching people how to be better at pvp, helping them gear, helping them level) is ridiculous considering the alleged actions and public persona your guild puts forth.

You attract more flies with honey rather than griefing them with twinks while they level or harass and taunt less skilled pvp in ooc.

If you can't see how off putting your guild can be despite someone's interest in exactly what you claim to practice, namely top level organized play in all facets of the game, then I don't know what to tell you.

Not the case at all nor have I ever stated that. We don't want people who think they can show up and afk at raids and just wait until the NPC is there to pay some attention. We've helped plenty of new recruits 46+ with no gear level up, get their epics, resist gear, teach them along the way etc because they want to learn how to PVP.

Not sure why the griefing with twinks is only attributed to azrael every guild has them.

If people believe everything they read on the forums then more power to them. I'd prefer someone that gets to know all the guilds in game and then makes a rational decision based on first hand observations.

[PVP Cleric]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people believe everything they read on the forums then more power to them. I'd prefer someone that gets to know all the guilds in game and then makes a rational decision based on first hand observations.

Here's my opinion, as a very new player to red:

There's basically nothing to learn on the forums at all. 30% of posts are saying one thing, 30% of posts are saying the exact opposite, 30% of posts are pure troll. All of those posts are claiming to be gospel truth. The remaining 10% are a mix of nonsense, cheating accusations, bravado about PVP that happened 6 guilds/3 years/2 boxes ago, or people who actually seem to be making sense (though what good is being sane when everyone else around you is not?).

And the "more power to them" should be going to anyone who could actually weather the storm of trying to learn about the different guilds through first-hand observations without first quitting, killing themselves, or being given a bunch of negative labels that keep any of the guilds from wanting them even if they ever did manage to figure out which one they want to join.

Most of you guys need to relax, take your own opinions with a grain of salt, and put real effort into figuring out what you truly enjoy about playing here and how you can realistically get more of that, rather than shitting all over ooc and the forums and the staff and each other.


Is everything I say true? Almost certainly not. Are all of my perceptions of the situation here correct? I really doubt it. But these are the thoughts that I've had over the course of only like a week playing on red and trying to sift through all the bullshit that's in these forums. Maybe you don't want more players to come here, maybe you don't want a lot of the players who are here already to stick around, maybe you don't want people who have played here in the past to come back... I don't know. But whatever your goals, could any of this possibly be helping?

[skitterburst]

Originally Posted by PVP Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's my opinion, as a very new player to red:

There's basically nothing to learn on the forums at all.

i disagree.. the forums are a great resource for anyone wanting to be an effective member of a grp.
reasons being:

patch notes are posted on forums
bugs are posted on forums
any major announcement by staff is posted on forums
rules are posted on forums

it seems to me that you are reading the wrong posts