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Old 02-05-2015, 12:31 AM
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lets get something straight here folks

holocaust has done nothing for server pop. When Nihilum had the zerg, server numbers were low. in fact at some times all time low. Holocaust has nothing to do with server pop going up.

The efforts of GMs and the community as a whole is the direct reasoning for server pop growing, cuddled with the fact that blue server sucks.

so pls spare the bullshit.

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Old 02-05-2015, 12:33 AM
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Your in a guild that treats server rules like floor mats. Might want to research who you hang with before you make a commitment. exp loss happens in pvp all the time. just yesterday I was kiting just like you, got snared and died. Oh and guess what? He was a holo member, a cool one which is rare but that's not my point. Point is, in pvp shit happens bro, get up, dust off, and either go elsewhere, contest, or log for a bit.
I do not care about pvp, or pvp exp loss, its the freaking ooc trash talk. Like attention starved little kids begging for dad's attention. Like i said i never said ANYTHING.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:33 AM
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enough for velious at this point, but the problem is (not taking shots, stating how i see it) at some point they will hit a fork where theres too many members for them all to get loots in a reasonable amount of time. but just in case you do care, continuing to accept anything with a pulse actually is hurting the server now.
Most guilds on live raided with 50-60 or more back in the day, many for years. Sure azrael can do mobs with 20-25+, but who geared azrael to the point where they could do that, a bis raid force? 50 man raids seem fine to me, thats how basically every guild raids on live and how anyone who wants to do velious content raids imho
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:36 AM
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I find it peculiar that Holocaust is not only being misinterpreted by almost every other guild on the server, but by GM's too.

We're not on a mission to be ready for Velious. That time has long past. Our mission isn't to zerg. When people throw that word around as if it's an insult, none of Holocaust's leaders are affected by it. These "insults," or what you think are criticisms, don't sting.

It's a matter of population growth, and it always has been. We don't care what you think. Blue99 grew plenty without actual competition. Despite the shit show it is over there, it's still getting 1300 people at prime time.

If you haven't figured it out yet, making this server more blue is what helps the population. All this painstaking work that myself and all the other leaders of Holocaust have put in will pay off. You clowns just need to wait. If we can epic and gear out bluebies in some modest gear before Velious, the chances they will stick around are vastly higher than if they're left to scrounge for upgrades on their own.

What we're doing is not rocket science. No one else is offering epics as they're able to complete them. No one is handing out RBBs and CoF's to apps.

Our guild bank consists of a few Tolan's BPs and almost nothing else. This loot isn't being hoarded. It's being awarded to new players on a daily basis.

We can't even afford peridots or planar stones because our bank is so hollowed out. We award loot to people that are there and need the loot. That may change in the future if the landscape of R99 changes, but for the foreseeable future, we'll be the same transparent loot council we've always been.

I could not care less that people think we're ruining the server. We're playing the long game. No other guild will or has the capability to gear out new players as they come in. And as Bump said earlier, if these new people leave Holocaust and move on to something else, so be it. I don't care. We geared a new player and invigorated the server with a lasting presence.

We're a zerg? Who fucking cares right now? It's Kunark. Any meaningful PvP happens on a small scale right now. KC PvP is a fucking joke.

Azrael isn't going to be in power again. Aside from our vow to gear new players, that's number one in our credo. Anyone that follows Lite is surrendering their EQ experience to a cyclical failure. Holocaust knows this, and we're going to make you feel it until you learn to build something new.

Sorry, that's just the way it's got to be. Sirken's criticism isn't going to change Azrael's behavior - their lack of tenacity is deep-rooted and inextricable. You have a shitty guild leader, that's it. Change it, or be relegated to a shitty EQ experience from now until your demise. That's the bottom line. I cannot be more clear about this.

As far as making examples out of people that are leading the server forward, that's all well and good. I support that.

But Sirken, the recent drama in Sebilis was a rash decision with unknowing players. I don't need to go over the same points everyone has already presented to you, but when you're not pleased with someone's behavior in game, it's a far better idea to send them a tell first, to communicate with them, before throwing out death touches. Everyone knew the pathing was changed on the sly, but no one stopped pulling there. They just figured out the new pathing nodes and continued on as normal. The implication of changing pathing nodes to stop players from pulling there isn't going to change our tenacity in figuring out a new and creative way to get it back behind that rock, and it's certainly not enough of a "statement" to warn us. Sending us a tell would have sufficed. I can see how you might see that situation as making an example out of us, but all it really amounted to was confusion among our players and probably a massive headache for you. In all honesty, that could have been solved the same way by sending each guild leader a tell, instructed to warn their players not to be there, or just by sending a server wide message about it during prime time. There are different creative ways of dealing with players that don't amount to different factions feeling slighted/ confused.

It's no big deal, though. You're gon' do what you're gon' do.

Holo crootin'
holy shit do u think any1 is gunna read this?
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:48 AM
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Came for the mandatory blue shutdown, stayed for the Holo. Gettin rich. Making alt that I want to pvp with.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:52 AM
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holy shit do u think any1 is gunna read this?
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:52 AM
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I do not care about pvp, or pvp exp loss, its the freaking ooc trash talk. Like attention starved little kids begging for dad's attention. Like i said i never said ANYTHING.
Again, look at your guild tag. I posted my opinions of holo on this forum not too long ago and was attacked For weeks. I have no sympathy for anyone that gets the same treatment while wearing that tag. In My eyes they deserve it For being allied with such scum.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:55 AM
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Then they wonder why no one likes them.
I think hitting a moving player might be a bit out of your league, i think the east commonlands tunnel is awaiting
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I think hitting a moving player might be a bit out of your league, i think the east commonlands tunnel is awaiting
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:03 AM
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People with my Tag are the only people, minus a few cool dudes from Suave - Who have been pretty cool and a plesent experience for me on this server. Perhaps you should take some lessons. Maybe new players would join you as well? Oh and PS you can be a cool dude and pvp and still be a cool dude. Refer to Vallon zek Early 2000s. PVP happend and people were cool about it. Nothing is personal on a video game. Sirken can validate this. See ya around.
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