When Velious comes....

[Bodybagger]

eh... guardians get replaced and still have goog loot, and sleeper when killed dropped nothing. *shrug* I never got all the major fuss about it. 100% confirmed velious doesn't effect my PVP other than trolling with summon monster spell on mage and other various new spells that come haha

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

eh... guardians get replaced and still have goog loot, and sleeper when killed dropped nothing. *shrug* I never got all the major fuss about it. 100% confirmed velious doesn't effect my PVP other than trolling with summon monster spell on mage and other various new spells that come haha

Ummm all the good stuff stops dropping...
Shroud of longevity, smolder, sod, danity gloves, writ of dragon and about another 10 drops. After awaken all that will drop is no drop weapons.
Most of the items, if not all are bis items.
So to answer your question. It is a big deal. Kind of like once vp is cleared no mobs will drop anything but junk.

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

eh... guardians get replaced and still have goog loot, and sleeper when killed dropped nothing. *shrug* I never got all the major fuss about it. 100% confirmed velious doesn't effect my PVP other than trolling with summon monster spell on mage and other various new spells that come haha

Compared to what dropped, to what will drop after sleeper is awaken proves how dumb you are. 2 BIS items? I guess we all dont wana be locked out of gnome masks huh?

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Give you an example.... Playing a healer class here vs a caster.... you can essentially heal til they OOM, as nukes aren't as efficient as heals generally. Running OOM 1 nuke away from scoring a kill sucks when all you can do is cast to kill. So in that sense a pure caster can be hell form some people unless you are more or less always prepared with FM for attacks.

Versatility is biggest factor for me I think though, and gear dependency, as being new to server you won't have it, so some classes are worthless without it. I enjoyed shaman on blue, but I love shaman on red. I love mage on blue but barely enjoy it on red as it has NO versatility... pet classes are tough as you have to gate away if you get caught with your pants down low mana or something, though that's most any caster class... gate or plug... really that's everyone I suppose... but I don't plug.

I love rogue but pvp don't enjoy them all that much... everyone can see invis which ruins my favorite part of being a rogue. It's just jousting for backstabs *Shrug*

Gearing characters is hugely different coming to red though. Items that had almost no value before are incredibly expensive, and vcie verca, because of resists. All lsots you go for resists > all else, and then othe rstats good for oyu like int/wis or stam/str are considered a bonus after haha

One of your other posts... Play a healer, you can just out heal them while they nuke til there oom and then kill them. Fuckin clown.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of your other posts... Play a healer, you can just out heal them while they nuke til there oom and then kill them. Fuckin clown.

Quotes me... then fails in changing what he just quoted. Comprehension > you assclown.


Show me where I said "then kill them"

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Compared to what dropped, to what will drop after sleeper is awaken proves how dumb you are. 2 BIS items? I guess we all dont wana be locked out of gnome masks huh?

let me clarify since reading isn't your strong point;

Compare the Best in slot item, to the second best in slot item, then tell me the difference is game breaking or a huge advantage? It's a pvp server.... unless it gives them an almighty edge over anyone else being able to take them on, it doesn't really matter... it's just pixels to lust for man... FFS

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

let me clarify since reading isn't your strong point;

Compare the Best in slot item, to the second best in slot item, then tell me the difference is game breaking or a huge advantage? It's a pvp server.... unless it gives them an almighty edge over anyone else being able to take them on, it doesn't really matter... it's just pixels to lust for man... FFS

SoD struck me as really broken at the time; it doesn't offer any pvp utility I guess, but 300dmg procs are pretty bonkers.

I'm not sure what you'd consider 2nd BiS, but shroud was similarly head and shoulders above stat wise. Velious is general starting shifting towards measurable stat increases instead of game changing procs/clickies.

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SoD struck me as really broken at the time; it doesn't offer any pvp utility I guess, but 300dmg procs are pretty bonkers.

I'm not sure what you'd consider 2nd BiS, but shroud was similarly head and shoulders above stat wise. Velious is general starting shifting towards measurable stat increases instead of game changing procs/clickies.

Or smolder with a 280 dd proc. But hey, whats a couple stats right? Im going to just scare pvp away with my monster summoning.
OMFG! Here comes a giant named vohn... Run!!!

[Not_Kazowi]

None of the loot that warders drop is game breaking.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None of the loot that warders drop is game breaking.

primal? fungi robe? sod?