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[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item shops that affect gameplay are a dealbreaker. Always. 100% of the time.

Saying the buys are "optional" is missing the fact that the game's design philosophy has been subverted completely, from "something you purchase to have fun" into "something designed to manipulate you into shelling out money". You are literally playing a Skinner box designed to condition you into clicking the "pay" button.

Take a decent RMT system like CSGO skins. They're just cosmetic and even facilitate betting real money on matches using skins as pachinko chips, so I'd argue they actually add something to the game and competitive scene even if they're sometimes toxic distractions.

What you see instead with SOE is the expansion into a new market, the PC parasite game, related to the artform of gaming only peripherally and predicated on the fact that a lot of money gets thrown into gaming by people who are not at all tasteful or informed consumers. A business model pioneered by the likes of Zynga. A business model that depends on carefully, scientifically nickel-and-diming you using operant conditioning.

If you fall for it, you are a sucker and you are contributing to the subversion of popular gaming into another ad-infested mass-media shitfest. There is no other perspective to take on the matter but the oblivious one.

Or people can do what they want and enjoy what they like and not really care what others think about it. Been playing LoL for about 5 months and spent around 400 dollars on it so far. You know why? Cause i can and i wanted to. Thats all that matters to anyone is what they want. If you dont want to play a game where there is a cash shop then so be it but other have voted with their wallet and they are winning.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or people can do what they want and enjoy what they like and not really care what others think about it. Been playing LoL for about 5 months and spent around 400 dollars on it so far. You know why? Cause i can and i wanted to. Thats all that matters to anyone is what they want. If you dont want to play a game where there is a cash shop then so be it but other have voted with their wallet and they are winning.

yeah like I said, cash shop for skins is borderline but acceptable. League is a solid game considering what you can get for free. World of Tanks is another F2P that isn't complete rape for the consumer. It's the subtle alteration to the business model that allows paying for ingame advantage that is the real evil here.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah like I said, cash shop for skins is borderline but acceptable. League is a solid game considering what you can get for free. World of Tanks is another F2P that isn't complete rape for the consumer. It's the subtle alteration to the business model that allows paying for ingame advantage that is the real evil here.

I also spent money on EQ live over the 12 years i played it. If i saw something i wanted i bought it. If it gave me power so be it. Games should be played anyway someone wants within the rules of that game. Companies are making cash shops because it makes them money. People will still play games that are pay2win and spend a lot money in the process. No company in their right mind would over look this pay scheme. They just have to decide if they want to go in that direction but there are enough gamers out there to satify all kinds of pay scheme when it comes to game.