Feminism today

[paulgiamatti]

I think I'm just gonna put you on ignore then. Everything you've attempted to contribute to this conversation has been completely ridiculous and delusional, and I'm kinda just done trying to take you seriously or understand you at this point.

It's obvious you're not interested in having an actual conversation anyway. It seems like this is more about trolling and getting people angry than about shedding light on an actual, real issue that exists outside of a message board.

So yeah, I think I'm done with Kagatob.

[Formshifter]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So men and women get paid the same now? They can both participate in all branches of the military? Both get equal paternity/maternity leave? And they both get raped at the same rate?

C'mon, women may have gotten equality on stuff like the right to vote, but they are far from equal in our society. And that's where some of that newer feminist stuff comes in.

Want women to get raped less? Then they need to be just as dominant as men, which means letting little girls get to play with GI Joes (or making Barbies that kick ass). Or having video game where the protagonist isn't male and isn't just a sex symbol for male players.

Until little girls stop learning to be quiet, submissive, and worry about clothes like Barbie, how can they possibly be equal to the little boys who are taught to be aggressive and take what they want?

Let me start by saying that I'm not sure if you're trolling or not, because people have said more ridiculous things in all seriousness.


Men and women get paid the same under the same circumstances. The numbers youre looking at are taking into account the average pay by gender but the flaw lies in the fact that they take into account the entire population for each gender based on the census. More women choose to stay at home to be moms or simply dont have to work, and if youve ever been to school you;d know that throwing a 0 into the numbers used for an average will drop it noticeably.


Yes men and women can both join any branch of the military, as there isnt any gender discrimination there either. Although men are required to sign up for the draft in order to get things like the right to vote, a driver's license, mail, social security ect whereas women are given these things without any sort of participation in selective services.


Rape is personal. Rape isn't a systemic thing, therefor it isn't "oppression" or "inequality". It's a terrible thing -there's no question about that- but the government doesnt mandate or sanction rape or impose the threat of it by any law. Rape is a people issue, not just a women's issue. It has always happened, it always will happen. I can't think of a single mammalian species where rape doesnt occur. It's one of those ugly parts of nature, though that doesn't mean it should happen. There are plenty of stupid people out there and theyre breeding at an alarming rate. Perhaps there's something that you as a feminist could do to decrease the instances of rape. No, put down your picket sign that says "if youre a man youre a rapist" and go get a concealed carry permit. Learn to use a gun. On the off chance that you ever happen to meet a rapist actively trying to rape you, blow a hole through him. It's kind of hard to maintain an erection when you're bleeding to death. Blood pressure, you see..


Yes, you can vote. You have the option to go to whichever school you want (and are accepted to which is based on your GPA, not your DNA). You can pursue whichever career you so choose and are qualified for. How exactly are you unequal in society? Even laws are tipped in your favor.



Lol if little girls want to play with G.I. Joes, good for them. Don't forget about natural instinct and the inherit gender roles they steer one gender or another towards. Little girls are naturally inclined to be more interested in that doll than that toy sword. That's not to say that the opposite preference doesn't happen. It does, but much less frequently than the former. Playing with barbies or legos isn't going to make you any more or less susceptible to rape. That's ridiculous. As for female video game protagonists? Really?.. It's a vastly male market (which is just beginning to really change) and -going back to that natural instinct stuff- sex sells. The one point to even existing is to mate to sustain whichever species you're part of. Humans are hard-wired to want to mate. But what about the societal pressure on men to look a certain way? Should I blame weight lifting and hygiene on the matriarchy?





Little boys aren't taught to be aggressive and take what they want, and if you have kids, i certainly hope you dont rear yours that way. Little boys are taught "ladies first". Little girls are more often pampered, so talk to their parents not the "patriarchy". And again going back to that pesky nature thing, self adornment. Both genders have been doing it since we first realized that clean clothes and shiny shit here and there looked good. Women especially are inclined to this sort of behavior. Self adornment is a way of increasing one's chances of finding a mate, whether it's to maybe hide some of your less than desirable genetic traits, or simply accentuate your good ones.



You arent mad at men or the government, your beef is with nature. (And there's nothing wrong with being a woman, so quit feeling so insecure)




P.S. DAT ASS
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[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I'm just gonna put you on ignore then. Everything you've attempted to contribute to this conversation has been completely ridiculous and delusional, and I'm kinda just done trying to take you seriously or understand you at this point.

It's obvious you're not interested in having an actual conversation anyway. It seems like this is more about trolling and getting people angry than about shedding light on an actual, real issue that exists outside of a message board.

So yeah, I think I'm done with Kagatob.

You've not presented a single sourced fact throughout the entire discussion (in either thread) your entire argument hinges on feelings and not facts, you even ignore/facts that have been presented multiple times to you while you keep pushing your tired narrative.

The irony is that you are an atheist. You are using the exact same arguments that creationists use, simply substitute "god did it" with "blame the patriarchy" and replace faith with feelings.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Women do not get to walk around in our society without the fear of rape. Women are raped, and rape committed against women happens every single day of every single month of every single year. Give me a 24-hour truce during which there is no rape.

This is not a narrative, folks. This is reality. Anyone with a single grain of sense can recognize how sickly and impoverished someone's mind has become when they try to pass this off as a narrative that exists to serve some #killallmen agenda.

Arthur Chu was absolutely right about people like this, so I'll link his article again for those who didn't get to read it in the other thread:

The Plight of the Kagatob: Why so many awkward, shy guys end up hating feminism

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not a narrative, folks. This is reality. Anyone with a single grain of sense can recognize how sickly and impoverished someone's mind has become when they try to pass this off as a narrative that exists to serve some #killallmen agenda.

Arthur Chu was absolutely right about people like this, so I'll link his article again for those who didn't get to read it in the other thread:

The Plight of the Kagatob: Why so many awkward, shy guys end up hating feminism

I didn't even read it. Chuchu train wrote it? Holy shit that adds an entire different convention of fuckedry.

He raped a dude you know.

[Ahldagor]

Egos clinging to relevance while watching their jobs circle down the drain. Anyone consider why the current feminist movement is academically driven and not widely seen in city streets?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Dimension*

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Arthur Chu interview

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[haksum]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a woman...

I don't forumquest that hard so not knowing if you are a woman au natural or one of these P99 'women' makes it difficult to weigh your opinion in these discussions.

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