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Old 01-09-2015, 05:32 PM
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Another ineffective coward. Nice to assume I'm a Christian where I gave no evidence, nice to assume that a generalized notion of a Muslim is applicable to all billion plus of them, and it was nice of you to assume that I believe in Morality. My initial post regards the non-reaction that Muslims had with South Park doing what the Dutch cartoonist and Charlie had done after South Park had done it. The reactions are unequivocally unequal, so why are the South Park guys not in danger (an assumption, yes, but an easy one to make seeing as there, again, was no uproar from Muslims). It's easy to see that the Middle East is being quickly modernized by the west, and there is a lot of backlash. There will be more bloodshed, so which side are you on? Do you think that a governmental cessation of immigration permission to Muslims will stop them from attacking those that they see fit to target? Ahriman has taught me much, so why won't you listen?
No dude, I'm assuming you aren't Christian. I don't get why you mentioned Christians to begin with was my point.

I'm glad you mentioned the Dutch, why don't you look up what happened to Van Gogh's great-grandnephew. Spoiler alert, Muslims killed him for having an opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_va...lm_director%29

1. The Middle East isn't being modernized. The only places that are getting better are Oman and Tunisia ... neither of those things have anything to do with the West. They have to do with Muslims, thankfully, finally having decent leadership and challenging the bull shit ultra-conservative orthodoxy. Sadly, those two countries make up like 15 million people total out of that 1.6 billion Muslims you mention. The problem is not that all Muslims are "radical," the problem is that large majorities of them think that the death penalty is acceptable for apostasy, that adultery is punishable by stoning, and that women are property. From that cultural baseline, a long line of "radicals," at least from the perspective of a liberal western society, spring forth.

2. Immigration restrictions aren't going to solve the problem, there are already way too many Muslims in Europe. But why continue to let people in who clearly don't have any desire to be a part of secular European society? I'm not trying to ad hominem attack you, I'm honestly just pissed; I for the life of me don't understand how people can not agree 100% that Muslims are dangerous to the rest of us. That doesn't mean they all are, certainly not, but it's starting to be a trend here. I mean holy shit, Boko Haram just completely their conquest of an entire Nigerian state today. Letting in immigrants from these countries, who are so far behind in culture, can do nothing to advance the cause of people already living within them, at least compared to other immigrant groups, like anyone from Latin America, who most likely wouldn't resort to violence. Is what I'm saying really that hard to understand? Is it really that hateful? I think it's logical.... I guess it isn't.

3. Matt Stone and Trey Parker aren't in danger because America has done a much better job assimilating Muslims for two reasons:
a) They weren't the overwhelming immigrant group being allowed in (Muslims are nearer to 1% in America whereas in France they're 6-8% and concentrated in Marseille and Paris, mostly).
b) America has always done better at assimilating people... It's a nation founded by immigration. Europe isn't doing it that well to be honest.
I think we have plenty of instances of Islamic terrorism to prove that we're a target of them as well though.
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