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[Colgate]

personally i would love item loot, assuming the resists would be classic-esque and i don't have to worry about getting rooted, blinded, etc. over and over on a max level, geared out character

i don't think it would help the population, though

p sure it would just kill the server within a week

[LostCause]

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[Evia]

Why don't we do 1 item loot rule? or random item loot rule? where it will randomly select 1 item you get to loot? kinda like how named mobs have a "chance" to drop a phat lewt piece. I think that would be really fun! could even make it so that it has a percent chance to drop nothing but coin. I completely agree that I think full item loot is just a bad idea...I also agree that having only coin is boring and gives no incentive to pvp. So I think that might be a cool idea even though I'm sure it's been brought up before.

[Nirgon]

item loot is best counter to rmt

clueless dumbz will lose their oniony goods

Also unrest/crushbone twinks must BURN

[Kergan]

Didn't happen that way on RZ and wouldn't happen that way here. All it does it make it so neckbeards who can afford to actually replace high end droppables receiving an even bigger advantage over the legit newer people who will be too afraid to even wear anything except garbage non drop gear.

It will actually make the unrest/crushbone griefing 10x worse, as now instead of just a fairly meaningless death people are losing what meager possessions they already have. Some of these clowns will take morbid satisfaction in destroying some new level 15s bronze breastplate and it'll just fuel them to do it more.

All item loot does (and I know this from personal experience) is make both PVP and PVE shittier because people are essentially gimping their characters - tanking worse, doing less damage and healing less effectively in the process - to avoid losing an item they may take out a couple times on repop day.

EQ item loot sucks ass and it always has.

[MaSQue]

@Kergan whatever happened with that rumor of a team pvp server in the works? Was there any truth to this ever?

[Gustoo]

At best it is put off till post velious.

Level 60 casuals are hurt and level 60 maniacs are sort of.empowered.

Lowbies get to have fun. Level 1 to 50 non twink you have basically nothing of value and even that is worth lesd when the economy consists of a lot of pked junk.

It isnt for everyone. They should turn this server item loot rallos classic and the new server can be a classic tallon server with whatever teams they want. It can allow character transfers from red as soon as its been on velious for a year.

[Gustoo]

Allow transfees for the people who dont want their toons stuck on item loot. It will have to be post velious sp the server can enjoy an awesome natural progression.

[Kergan]

They've said multiple times Velious takes priority over any new server development. It also was pretty much all but confirmed that item loot would be part of the new server, but that was a long time ago. I wouldn't expect it to be like RZ though, there was a lot of debate about creative ways to manage it.

If you're going with a custom ruleset there are so many better ways to encourage PVP than item loot. 6 months into Velious the only people risking ANYTHING will be newer players and fresh level 60s, anyone even semi hardcore is going to have a full set of non drop gear. Item loot didn't work on live, which is why they got rid of it on RZ and never made another PVP server with it enabled. It would be worse here.

If you want meaningful small skirmish style PVP you need to add something like the SZ insignia system with a vendor selling useful items. I had 10x more fun PVPing on devnoob/image boxes in large part because of that. The carrot is always going to be more impactful than the stick in a game with such a high cost of entry in terms of time investment especially at the end game.

[Gustoo]

Best carrot is an ikky regen. New server is supposed to be teams which I think is recipe for lame. Id rather the new server be teams non item loot and have present server become rallos classic.

Obv my dream would be an rz replica from the start but I dont think there is any hope of that.