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Old 11-09-2010, 12:58 PM
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Two reasons:

1. Back in the day, one of the features of EQ was that it was a persistent shared world. The world had its own integrity regardless of which, if any players were there. Mobs spawned, the day night cycle continued, etc etc. Any player that went to any particular area of the game world would see the same thing (including other players). When different players are using different character models, then that takes a little bit away from the shared experience. Suddenly, all the players in a given area aren't seeing the same thing anymore.

2. I take a sense of ownership in my avatar, as I believe most players do. I want everyone that I interact with to see my avatar looking the way I chose to make him look. For instance, maybe I choose the salt and pepper (well red pepper anyway) bearded barbarian and want to role play myself as the gritty veteran who's past his prime, but you have luclin models on and I look like a 28 yr old clean shaven musclehead with a pony-tail. Certainly not everyone, but a lot of us want this principle observed.

As I posted in the other thread, if luclin models ever appear on this server, I would love it if there was a way for all models to be enabled and displayed based on the choice of the player whose avatar is on screen, not the choice of the person running the client. However, that is more of a philosophical position as the coding obstacles are almost certainly too high to justify the effort.




Dumesh, how do you know people, even if using classic models, perceive them as you do?

How do you know the way you see the color red, is the way I see the color red?

You dont. Meditate on it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:21 PM
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Dumesh, how do you know people, even if using classic models, perceive them as you do?

How do you know the way you see the color red, is the way I see the color red?

You dont. Meditate on it.
Because of the normalized distribution of genetic variation governing the growth of the collective playerbases' eyeballs and brains, I am confident that the population within several standard deviations is seeing substantially the same thing when the same thing is displayed on the screen. There are genetic outliers, but the portion of those whose vision is still good enough to play the game would be hard pressed to confuse a clean-shaven luclin barbarian with a pony tail with a original barbarian with the salt and pepper beard face, despite any lack of (or blurring of) coloring information.

Perhaps you should read some more biology between philosophy classes? or just stop being obtuse because our opinions differ?
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:36 PM
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Because of the normalized distribution of genetic variation governing the growth of the collective playerbases' eyeballs and brains, I am confident that the population within several standard deviations is seeing substantially the same thing when the same thing is displayed on the screen. There are genetic outliers, but the portion of those whose vision is still good enough to play the game would be hard pressed to confuse a clean-shaven luclin barbarian with a pony tail with a original barbarian with the salt and pepper beard face, despite any lack of (or blurring of) coloring information.

Perhaps you should read some more biology between philosophy classes? or just stop being obtuse because our opinions differ?
What evidence do you have that you see things the same as me?
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:39 PM
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What evidence do you have that you see things the same as me?
What evidence do you have that you weren't dropped on your head as a baby.
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:12 PM
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So are the mobs and shit luclin too? or just the players? Would love to see some old world bosses in luclin models.
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:14 PM
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So are the mobs and shit luclin too? or just the players? Would love to see some old world bosses in luclin models.
They didn't change any old world boss models in Luclin that I'm aware of.
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:15 PM
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Well what about mobs? like just regular ones.
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