Michael Brown

[paulgiamatti]

Again, you're conflating the statement "caucasians are an oppressive and racist people" with "caucasians are currently more oppressive than x, or more racist than y".

Caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet. If you think otherwise, you've never picked up a history book. I love America and my native ancestors as much as anyone else (the most important of which, by the way, happens to be Thomas Jefferson), but facts are just facts.

And by the way, guess which race the Germans belong to?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, you're conflating the statement "caucasians are an oppressive and racist people" with "caucasians are currently more oppressive than x, or more racist than y".

Caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet. If you think otherwise, you've never picked up a history book. I love America and my native ancestors as much as anyone else (the most important of which, by the way, happens to be Thomas Jefferson), but facts are just facts.

And by the way, guess which race the Germans belong to?

Bases entire argument on the race of the "oppressors".
Brings up context when convenient yet it doesn't apply to his own "points" because kill whitey.
Ignores individual cultures completely.

Who's the racist again?

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who's the racist again?

Anyone with a grain of sense knows you embody things far worse than racism.

It's really sad that I have to keep reassuring people like you that pointing out the obvious racism of a group of people isn't indicative of racism on my behalf, but simply of racism that pervades every facet of the very culture we're living in.

It just goes to show how deep the termites have gone. It goes to show how pervasive white racism really is, and how desperate you and so many others are to stay nice and comfortably unaware of it.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone with a grain of sense knows you embody things far worse than racism.

It's really sad that I have to keep reassuring people like you that pointing out the obvious racism of a group of people isn't indicative of racism on my behalf, but simply of racism that pervades every facet of the very culture we're living in.

It just goes to show how deep the termites have gone. It goes to show how pervasive white racism really is, and how desperate you and so many others are to stay nice and comfortably unaware of it.

This may be a P99 record for most double standards in a single post.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, you're conflating the statement "caucasians are an oppressive and racist people" with "caucasians are currently more oppressive than x, or more racist than y".

Caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet. If you think otherwise, you've never picked up a history book. I love America and my native ancestors as much as anyone else (the most important of which, by the way, happens to be Thomas Jefferson), but facts are just facts.

And by the way, guess which race the Germans belong to?

Lol, yes, I'm aware that the Germans are white. I'm also aware that they still support Israel to this day because of their guilt. Meanwhile, Turkey denies that the Armenian Genocide even happened, while condemning the occupation of Palestine (while they themselves occupy Cyprus). It's easy from our American context to define oppression as this White vs Others concept, but in reality it has never been that simple. China has oppressed peoples on its periphery, and still occupies portions of India. Empires like Britain, colonial France, and America have done things like this. The difference is, America and Europe, have moved forward and stopped being as bad as they used to be. I'm an immigrant. I don't know how to make this any clearer, but my life is better in Whitey's American than in my home. There are literally millions of people who feel the same way but somehow that gets ignored.

Also, the Mongols killed 20% of the planet in the course of about two centuries. I think they win the most oppressive argument.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The difference is, America and Europe, have moved forward and stopped being as bad as they used to be.

I don't know who you're arguing against. This was never a point of contention.

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, the Mongols killed 20% of the planet in the course of about two centuries. I think they win the most oppressive argument.

Oppression has more forms than simply murder and genocide. Read a book.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know who you're arguing against. This was never a point of contention.



Oppression has more forms than simply murder and genocide. Read a book.

Which book should we start with?

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know who you're arguing against. This was never a point of contention.



Oppression has more forms than simply murder and genocide. Read a book.

What forms? Again, who is oppressing whom, Darren Wilson and the prosecutor or the thousands of blacks who rioted and destroyed their own city. No point arguing though. I've read many books, and none of them made me believe that vice is virtue and that weakness is strength. It's easy to riot and tear down a city but it's very difficult to build a culture that values family, education, and hard work. That's the true tragedy of the African-American experience.

Also, am I the one with the broken link as an avatar that iruinedyourday is referring to? I certainly can see my avatar haha

[Raev]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet. If you think otherwise, you've never picked up a history book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

The reality is that homo sapiens is a highly competitive species, and men and women of all races are capable of acts of tremendous cruelty towards "the others". You say Caucasians are the most oppressive; I say Caucasians are the most successful. Potato potahto. The reality is that European civilization is by far the most racially and religiously tolerant one out there.

The funny thing is, I see white Americans as far more racist than we were as a group 10-20 years ago, precisely because we are tired of getting beat over the head with how evil we are by you moronic social justice warriors.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Caucasians are historically the most oppressive people on the planet. If you think otherwise, you've never picked up a history book.

It really sounds like you've only ever picked up ONE history book in your life. Your post literally oozes that Zinn historical narrative and nothing else... I feel mildly sad for you, I'm sorry to say, though you aren't the only one here who sounds like a faithful Zinn disciple. There is hope for you all. Try broadening your horizons a little. Pick up some other books and open your minds -- I promise it's worth it.