Forced Beta Test

[phoenix182]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server needs this more than a few people need their new spell level. We've been waiting for Velious for years in hopes that it'd fix the toxic endgame scene we have now.

Maybe those individuals who think this is a shitty thing should do everyone a favor and help out this weekend so it isn't just the current testers doing all the work for them.

Of course, there's another side to this.

Take a group of people who don't have high level toons, and haven't explored Velious content (at least not recently enough to matter), give them high level toons and let them loose in these new zones.

Is the feedback you're going to receive of any real value? Some, maybe, but mostly you'll get a crazy, chaotic cluster.

The purpose of open or forced betas is load testing (and MAYBE hunting lagpoints caused by bad object intersections). That's it's only true value. No one else has any idea what's going on, or how to behave. IF they play at all (and that's a BIG if) they'll be too busy figuring things out and dying repeatedly to know if anything is 'how it should be' to provide valuable feedback.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by phoenix182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, there's another side to this.

Take a group of people who don't have high level toons, and haven't explored Velious content (at least not recently enough to matter), give them high level toons and let them loose in these new zones.

Is the feedback you're going to receive of any real value? Some, maybe, but mostly you'll get a crazy, chaotic cluster.

The purpose of open or forced betas is load testing (and MAYBE hunting lagpoints caused by bad object intersections). That's it's only true value. No one else has any idea what's going on, or how to behave. IF they play at all (and that's a BIG if) they'll be too busy figuring things out and dying repeatedly to know if anything is 'how it should be' to provide valuable feedback.

There is a multitude of things to do in Velious that doesn't involve being a high level and whirling yourself around dungeons you can't handle, fortunately, if that is what you choose to do, you have the option.

When you /beta over a character, it creates a copy of your toon, you can continue to use said toon to test your own metal in the land of Winter, or you can be just as useless to the community as you want to be.

Hopefully somewhere in the cluster, some good will come forth and we can all rejoice when Velious drops instead of picking trouble at each other.

[phoenix182]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a multitude of things to do in Velious that doesn't involve being a high level and whirling yourself around dungeons you can't handle, fortunately, if that is what you choose to do, you have the option.

When you /beta over a character, it creates a copy of your toon, you can continue to use said toon to test your own metal in the land of Winter, or you can be just as useless to the community as you want to be.

Hopefully somewhere in the cluster, some good will come forth and we can all rejoice when Velious drops instead of picking trouble at each other.

I know there'll be some good gained from it. Especially since just by being on this server after so many years there's a good chance many of us have at least some mid to high level experience. I certainly want to see Velious as soon, and as functional, as possible.

But I just wanted to point out that there are definitely negatives to the METHOD being used. I foresee a LOT of bad compared to any good.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by phoenix182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know there'll be some good gained from it. Especially since just by being on this server after so many years there's a good chance many of us have at least some mid to high level experience. I certainly want to see Velious as soon, and as functional, as possible.

But I just wanted to point out that there are definitely negatives to the METHOD being used. I foresee a LOT of bad compared to any good.

If there is any good coming out of this, than there will be no bad, plain and simple. There is nothing bad that can come out of this besides a bunch of people spamming GM's for their time.

[phoenix182]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there is any good coming out of this, than there will be no bad, plain and simple. There is nothing bad that can come out of this besides a bunch of people spamming GM's for their time.

Fair enough. *shrug* I get a good game that only costs me donations, so I'm not complaining about a single weekend lost to keep improving it. I just think it's important to consider all sides of things...if for no other reason than to learn from them in the future. Guessing we'll see how it goes soon enough. 8-)

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by phoenix182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough. *shrug* I get a good game that only costs me donations, so I'm not complaining about a single weekend lost to keep improving it. I just think it's important to consider all sides of things...if for no other reason than to learn from them in the future. Guessing we'll see how it goes soon enough. 8-)

I hope you're wrong, but I suspect you won't be.

I question the qualifications of the masses.