Would you donate for a new blue server?

[rollin5k]

what I'm saying is the majority of people want a rotation. The minority forces the competition. Not about total pop. So if you take 50% of blue that's still way more than red

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by rollin5k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what I'm saying is the majority of people want a rotation. The minority forces the competition. Not about total pop. So if you take 50% of blue that's still way more than red

I think the population would actually increase overall. There's dozens of people in BDA that just faded away because they hit that glass raid ceiling. They weren't willing to ditch the guild and they weren't willing to play like TMO/IB so they just quit entirely. There's plenty of casual guilds with members exactly like that who want to experience raid content.

Hell, the hardcore server could just have a very spartan ruleset and plenty of old TMO/IB might show up for the fight. Allow training or just xp=loot, whatever.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the population would actually increase overall. There's dozens of people in BDA that just faded away because they hit that glass raid ceiling. They weren't willing to ditch the guild and they weren't willing to play like TMO/IB so they just quit entirely. There's plenty of casual guilds with members exactly like that who want to experience raid content.

Hell, the hardcore server could just have a very spartan ruleset and plenty of old TMO/IB might show up for the fight. Allow training or just xp=loot, whatever.

I'm in that awkward place myself. I really want no part of the TMO/IB playstyle but they're unfortunately the only real option to advance once you reach a certain point.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the population would actually increase overall. There's dozens of people in BDA that just faded away because they hit that glass raid ceiling. They weren't willing to ditch the guild and they weren't willing to play like TMO/IB so they just quit entirely. There's plenty of casual guilds with members exactly like that who want to experience raid content.

I quit for this reason. And burned out on KC. Nothing will solve that though.

[-TK-]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I quit for this reason. And burned out on KC. Nothing will solve that though.

Honestly just curious but you hit the 'glass raid ceiling' with a level 52 monk? Assuming that your sig is accurate. Being burned out on KC is understandable by everyone I think, but there is a solution to that....go somewhere else. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I don't know if you have your epic or not but that's completely manageable if you're in AG without any crazy raid or drop holding you back. And AG does plenty of raiding so are you sick of waiting to get to VP or something because I know they are seeing other end-game content.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by -TK- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly just curious but you hit the 'glass raid ceiling' with a level 52 monk? Assuming that your sig is accurate. Being burned out on KC is understandable by everyone I think, but there is a solution to that....go somewhere else. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I don't know if you have your epic or not but that's completely manageable if you're in AG without any crazy raid or drop holding you back. And AG does plenty of raiding so are you sick of waiting to get to VP or something because I know they are seeing other end-game content.

Not necessarily the same 'glass raid ceiling' as he refers to. However, consider what I have to look forward to as a 52 monk with scheduled play time... raiding just doesn't fit because:

1. Variance is a good idea that doesn't work and ends up penalizing everyone.
   
2. Too many people fighting over the same mobs makes it feel like the overcrowded swimming pool on deck 13 of the weekend cruise 'getaway'.
   
3. MQ's are classic, but stupid because it provides incentive for people with lots of free time to farm irrelevant content which affects how I (and many others) play the game every time I log on.
   
4. Economy is completely ruined because of large amounts of platinum and high end loot floating around (which all seems to be controlled by the same people).

All of these items have impacted what the server is today. To be clear I didn't log off one day and say I'm quitting because this sucks. I logged off and didn't feel the need to log back on because it just sucked trying to compete with everyone on everything right down to NO DROP quest loot and I got sick of it. So many bad experiences with randoms.

It's been a few months since I've logged in. AG was just getting into the mix with their first Trak kill and a few run ins with Gore and Talendor. Me quitting had nothing to do with what AG was or wasn't doing. AG is awesome. It is more a reflection of the state of the server.

And yet, here I am on the forums following this discussion.. why? I'm not quite sure at the moment.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not necessarily the same 'glass raid ceiling' as he refers to. However, consider what I have to look forward to as a 52 monk with scheduled play time... raiding just doesn't fit because:

1. Variance is a good idea that doesn't work and ends up penalizing everyone.
   
2. Too many people fighting over the same mobs makes it feel like the overcrowded swimming pool on deck 13 of the weekend cruise 'getaway'.
   
3. MQ's are classic, but stupid because it provides incentive for people with lots of free time to farm irrelevant content which affects how I (and many others) play the game every time I log on.
   
4. Economy is completely ruined because of large amounts of platinum and high end loot floating around (which all seems to be controlled by the same people).

All of these items have impacted what the server is today. To be clear I didn't log off one day and say I'm quitting because this sucks. I logged off and didn't feel the need to log back on because it just sucked trying to compete with everyone on everything right down to NO DROP quest loot and I got sick of it. So many bad experiences with randoms.

It's been a few months since I've logged in. AG was just getting into the mix with their first Trak kill and a few run ins with Gore and Talendor. Me quitting had nothing to do with what AG was or wasn't doing. AG is awesome. It is more a reflection of the state of the server.

And yet, here I am on the forums following this discussion.. why? I'm not quite sure at the moment.

Gotta love it when 5 other classes are rolling on no drop epic pieces. Even better when 3 of those 5 can't even do the mq without an enchanter.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta love it when 5 other classes are rolling on no drop epic pieces. Even better when 3 of those 5 can't even do the mq without an enchanter.

EQ all about team work amiright? The MQers are job makers.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not necessarily the same 'glass raid ceiling' as he refers to. However, consider what I have to look forward to as a 52 monk with scheduled play time... raiding just doesn't fit because:

1. Variance is a good idea that doesn't work and ends up penalizing everyone.
   
2. Too many people fighting over the same mobs makes it feel like the overcrowded swimming pool on deck 13 of the weekend cruise 'getaway'.
   
3. MQ's are classic, but stupid because it provides incentive for people with lots of free time to farm irrelevant content which affects how I (and many others) play the game every time I log on.
   
4. Economy is completely ruined because of large amounts of platinum and high end loot floating around (which all seems to be controlled by the same people).

All of these items have impacted what the server is today. To be clear I didn't log off one day and say I'm quitting because this sucks. I logged off and didn't feel the need to log back on because it just sucked trying to compete with everyone on everything right down to NO DROP quest loot and I got sick of it. So many bad experiences with randoms.

It's been a few months since I've logged in. AG was just getting into the mix with their first Trak kill and a few run ins with Gore and Talendor. Me quitting had nothing to do with what AG was or wasn't doing. AG is awesome. It is more a reflection of the state of the server.

And yet, here I am on the forums following this discussion.. why? I'm not quite sure at the moment.

Pm me and I'll give you some starter cash for your new red monk.