Would you donate for a new blue server?

[haksum]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, so far looks like 58 "complainers" huh.

Don't be a dumbass. The handful of complainers are the ones coming here EVERY WEEK making new threads/posts about what changes they want implemented this week and complaining about how this and that is some great injustice to them. The rest of you are too passive aggressive to actually say anything about anything. Haven't the GM's said they don't put any stock in these polls just recently?

And I'm not surprised that casuals would vote for this. I get it. It's the way society is going in general. Less effort, more reward - on my time! I'm casual and I understand. Sure, I wish I could see VP and do more raiding, but I can't because RL > pixels, but you bet your ass I'll be ready when Velious launches and it opens up. But the people always trying to change the system around their whims is so old and played out. You all come across as a bunch of ungrateful whiny-ass bitches. Velious isn't going to fix this, a new server isn't going to fix this, new rules aren't going to fix this. You guys should instead look into fixing your own attitudes. Realize this isn't a democracy or democratic republic and that in life there will always be people with more time/money/whatever than you and learn to still enjoy life despite the fact.

Try being genuinely grateful you can even play here and even have a chance to experience EQ again instead of whining over and over about how much you DON'T get here. If you guys made as many 'Thank you threads' to the GM's and staff as whining/complaining threads, I bet more things would be done and sooner. Really, guys, holy crap. Take a step back and look at how much whining/complaining you guys do around here from an outsider's/GM's perspective about a server that's being generously ran for your enjoyment with others' volunteered time, effort, and resources. You show appreciation for this by constantly complaining that they need to do more and that you're not happy because it doesn't cater to your needs/playability? Fuck.

[Argh]

Everyone who donates and moves would be sad to find out all the same shit still happening.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone who donates and moves would be sad to find out all the same shit still happening.

No it wouldnt. There would be a rotation so the same shit doesnt happen. Notice how all the guilds in Class R get along or atleast act like they get along enough to have a rational raid scene.

[Kayso]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

must be a TMO member if you think you can dictate how other people enjoy their time on this server

You're wrong. I am not in TMO. And I don't think I can dictate anything. The staff wants competition. They've said it over and over. I don't think any solution that totally eliminates competition would ever be approved.

If a rotation server were put in place tomorrow, and it coincided with the release of Velious, I can think of two guilds that would instantly gain a large influx of pixels (almost as large as their respective memberships) by the benefit of rotating all the Kunark mobs and then rotating all the Velious mobs that currently only they can kill exclusively between themselves.

Right now being in "R" as a small guild sucks because 1) we don't get as many opportunities as we'd like, 2) the idea that we can truly compete with the entrenched FFA guilds is ridiculous and 3) as new guilds join (or are poised to join) the rotation diluting the pixel opportunities further, there's two guilds that can compete with IB/TMO and just choose not to.

[Man0warr]

If those 2 guilds wanted to, they could just go by the server rules and use the 3-kill lockout for R-mobs and screw over the little guilds. But they don't.

[Doil_Boil]

I don't understand what the point of a new server would be if they allowed character moves. The fresh server feels would be completely ruined.

[Man0warr]

It's not supposed to be a fresh server.

[toolshed]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it wouldnt. There would be a rotation so the same shit doesnt happen. Notice how all the guilds in Class R get along or atleast act like they get along enough to have a rational raid scene.

Nobody would go outside the of the raid rotation? What's stopping people from moving over to the new server with this exact intention? Nobody on the server is going to take advantage of monsters that are currently up?

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody would go outside the of the raid rotation? What's stopping people from moving over to the new server with this exact intention? Nobody on the server is going to take advantage of monsters that are currently up?

Because the whole point is it would be GM enforced. If you went outside the rotation, then you get suspended. People wouldn't do it.

[Daldaen]

If this option isn't available (which I'm almost positive it is not)...

Zero Variance
Hard limit on number of players in zone when mob spawns (let's say 3)
Keep no FTE with trackers rule
Foot Race start points and SoW only
Class Restriction extended to be 12-24 hours (as opposed to current 6), to facilitate the spreading of raid targets since Class R will inevitably take longer to kill theirs.
Full FFA on repops

Gonna quote one of my posts from last week.

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A man can dream though...

Maybe one day, to be competitive on FFA mobs, you don't need to have a force that can show up at any time between 2AM-6PM, along with several trackers and FTEers in zone the entire 16 hour window.

Maybe one day, to be competitive you can note the time, send your tracker and FTEers out 30minutes before he spawns and have your guild camp out an hour in advance. Then you may race for and compete for a mob, without spending 16 hours camped out and constantly staring at a wall.

Surely there will always be 2AM mob spawns, and surely the Class C guilds will dominate those. But I have a dream my fellow 15-year old dragon pixel elf simulators. That one day, a guild's competitiveness will not be judged by their ability to field a force 24 hours a day. But will be judged by the content of their character's ability to race and do more will less. To pick and choose their battles and be able to put up a fight without staring at a wall for 16 hours.

Amen.