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Old 11-10-2014, 12:51 AM
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I'm still going to hope for the best and assume that the community can outrule the classic shit that is really not classic because it was not this prevalent back then.

I think getting rid of toxic causing tactics would be a huge benefit for the entire server (classic or not). Classic experiences that cause such a large amount of negativity across the entire playerbase should be ruled over.

You can't tell me that if 80% or more of your entire playerbase want it gone you would still keep it... Seems kind of silly to keep it in place just because it was in the game 15 years ago.

I don't know, I'm still rooting for the community to keep putting in their votes. This server was made by you awesome devs for our enjoyment and if something as stupid as corpsing ruins it for a majority of the players then well maybe the whole "isn't changing because it wasn't classic" mentality should go out the window for maybe just a few things.

This server isn't truly classic as it is anyways.

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Also, I bet if you outlawed corpsing you would make a lot of RMTers really angry. Isn't that a win too?
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:53 AM
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I'm still going to hope for the best and assume that the community can outrule the classic shit that is really not classic because it was not this prevalent back then.

I think getting rid of toxic causing tactics would be a huge benefit for the entire server (classic or not). Classic experiences that cause such a large amount of negativity across the entire playerbase should be ruled over.

You can't tell me that if 80% or more of your entire playerbase want it gone you would still keep it... Seems kind of silly to keep it in place just because it was in the game 15 years ago.

I don't know, I'm still rooting for the community to keep putting in their votes. This server was made by you awesome devs for our enjoyment and if something as stupid as corpsing ruins it for a majority of the players then well maybe the whole "isn't changing because it wasn't classic" mentality should go out the window for maybe just a few things.

This server isn't truly classic as it is anyways.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:01 AM
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You can't tell me that if 80% or more of your entire playerbase want it gone you would still keep it... Seems kind of silly to keep it in place just because it was in the game 15 years ago.
We totally do this all the time. Nilbog really doesn't care if something drives away players so long as it's classic. We all pretty much share that mentality.

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Also, I bet if you outlawed corpsing you would make a lot of RMTers really angry. Isn't that a win too?
Already do this all the time. Don't want to push them too far, might get shot in a dark alley.

Corpsing lore items isn't a game breaking thing anyway. I know it seems like a huge deal right now, but that sentiment will slowly fade and it will slowly go from world-ending importance down to minor gripe.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:07 AM
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Could you imagine a sky w/ no corpses?
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:08 AM
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We totally do this all the time. Nilbog really doesn't care if something drives away players so long as it's classic. We all pretty much share that mentality
Enable guildwar please. It is a classic feature after all
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:46 PM
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You cannot work wacky corpse lines on lore items in order to grab multiple items in the same "camp session" if there are others waiting to take the camp. Please be aware that we reserve the right to apply this same ruling to any camp if we deem it necessary, including camps with multiple players.
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Corpsing lore items isn't a game breaking thing anyway. I know it seems like a huge deal right now, but that sentiment will slowly fade and it will slowly go from world-ending importance down to minor gripe.
Wait... wut?

So if Deru says it's already against the rules, why is he here saying it will never be against the rules?
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:00 PM
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Wait... wut?

So if Deru says it's already against the rules, why is he here saying it will never be against the rules?
Probably because Derubael understands that there is a difference between corpsing an item at prime time when there are folks waiting to have their shot at the camp versus showing up to an empty zone at 4:30am and getting a second item and corpsing. It seems people want to lump these both into the same category and make it bannable under any circumstance, which is silly to me IMO.

The spirit of the rule is don't be a greedy dildo and block folks out of their turn.
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Old 11-10-2014, 03:51 PM
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We totally do this all the time. Nilbog really doesn't care if something drives away players so long as it's classic. We all pretty much share that mentality.



Already do this all the time. Don't want to push them too far, might get shot in a dark alley.

Corpsing lore items isn't a game breaking thing anyway. I know it seems like a huge deal right now, but that sentiment will slowly fade and it will slowly go from world-ending importance down to minor gripe.
Way to not so elegantly spit on us.

You just overtly said "piss off, Nilbog doesn't give a shit that this behavior is caustic and causes more harm than good, we're going to do it because it's classic."

You know, there was another game server with that same "head up your ass" mentality and guess what happened to them as soon as someone made another similar server? 98% of its player base left for the new server. They decided it was better to start all over from 11 years of investment rather than continue to put up with this kind of arrogance. This poll (while purely anecdotal currently) is not saying bow down to the whims of the few vocal minority, rather take note the concerns of people for whom you claim to be providing this service to.

The topic of discussion is significant in so much as has been stated and furthermore, has direct impact upon sustainability of your pet project.

That being said, you're recent clarification on this behavior should imho alleviate the Lore item issue and for that, many of us are grateful. The true concern of the OP I believe is just the general manipulation and deceitfulness of specific individuals. Unfortunately, you can do nothing to change their behavior which will truly address it permanently. There are too many ways to circumvent the system which you have loosely setup in an effort to provide maximum enjoyment to the largest percentage of the player base.

So to the OP I say this, you're on the right pathway for change. It must come from us, the players. There are ways that we can and should deal with individuals who are toxic to the server. Rally your support in game. Your concerns are shared by many.
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Old 11-10-2014, 05:00 PM
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Way to not so elegantly spit on us.

You just overtly said "piss off, Nilbog doesn't give a shit that this behavior is caustic and causes more harm than good, we're going to do it because it's classic."

You know, there was another game server with that same "head up your ass" mentality and guess what happened to them as soon as someone made another similar server? 98% of its player base left for the new server. They decided it was better to start all over from 11 years of investment rather than continue to put up with this kind of arrogance. This poll (while purely anecdotal currently) is not saying bow down to the whims of the few vocal minority, rather take note the concerns of people for whom you claim to be providing this service to.

The topic of discussion is significant in so much as has been stated and furthermore, has direct impact upon sustainability of your pet project.

That being said, you're recent clarification on this behavior should imho alleviate the Lore item issue and for that, many of us are grateful. The true concern of the OP I believe is just the general manipulation and deceitfulness of specific individuals. Unfortunately, you can do nothing to change their behavior which will truly address it permanently. There are too many ways to circumvent the system which you have loosely setup in an effort to provide maximum enjoyment to the largest percentage of the player base.

So to the OP I say this, you're on the right pathway for change. It must come from us, the players. There are ways that we can and should deal with individuals who are toxic to the server. Rally your support in game. Your concerns are shared by many.
You do realize that they dont care if anyone plays on this server or not. The server is for Rogean and Nilbog and anyone that wants to follow their path. Not the first time they have said if you dont like it then leave and it's basically true. If anything p99 is more of a trouble for nil and rog then anything
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Old 11-10-2014, 05:18 PM
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Way to not so elegantly spit on us.

You just overtly said "piss off, Nilbog doesn't give a shit that this behavior is caustic and causes more harm than good, we're going to do it because it's classic."

You know, there was another game server with that same "head up your ass" mentality and guess what happened to them as soon as someone made another similar server? 98% of its player base left for the new server. They decided it was better to start all over from 11 years of investment rather than continue to put up with this kind of arrogance. This poll (while purely anecdotal currently) is not saying bow down to the whims of the few vocal minority, rather take note the concerns of people for whom you claim to be providing this service to.
This server pretty much became the success that it is now either because or in spite of this attitude (it's certainly not new or recent). I really doubt anyone is going to come along with a similar server that comes near the quality of P99, but they're more than welcome to try.
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