Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > General Community > Rants and Flames

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-31-2014, 08:57 PM
Glenzig Glenzig is offline
Planar Protector

Glenzig's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,557
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
that is fucking bullshit im sorry, let me answer your question... why is it an issue in video games?

Because it is an issue FOR HER so she talks about it.

you are not the sun and the stars, how you feel isnt how the world feels.

there are PLENTY of OTHER PEOPLE that take issue with the objectification of women in fashion magazines.

All women arnt the same, they can have interests in separate things.
But couldn't you just flip that around and apply it to hers and your point of view too? Doesn't this type of.logic basically make all points of view moot?
  #2  
Old 10-31-2014, 09:01 PM
iruinedyourday iruinedyourday is offline
Banned


Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,348
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
But couldn't you just flip that around and apply it to hers and your point of view too? Doesn't this type of.logic basically make all points of view moot?
no no she is being critical of an atform.

gamergate is like SHUTUP SHUTUP SHUTUP NO NO NO
  #3  
Old 10-31-2014, 09:08 PM
Glenzig Glenzig is offline
Planar Protector

Glenzig's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,557
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
no no she is being critical of an atform.

gamergate is like SHUTUP SHUTUP SHUTUP NO NO NO
So she's giving an opinion and some of the people she's criticizing don't like it. I fail to see a scandal here.
  #4  
Old 10-31-2014, 09:20 PM
paulgiamatti paulgiamatti is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: minneapolis belongs to me
Posts: 2,043
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Then why are you so upset? They have the right to create the kind of games they wish, you have the right to criticize them, and women have the right to play or not play those video games as they choose. Why the need for the strong language?
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Because - in case you've so easily forgotten - women who even dare to utter a word about these issues are having their personal information published, being forced to flee their homes because of the constant death threats and threats of violence and rape, and can't even go about holding a seminar without someone threatening to go on a fucking shooting spree.

That is the death of free speech. A better question is, why aren't more people upset about this?
  #5  
Old 10-31-2014, 09:23 PM
iruinedyourday iruinedyourday is offline
Banned


Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,348
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
So she's giving an opinion and some of the people she's criticizing don't like it. I fail to see a scandal here.
she isnt critisizing people, she's constructively criticizing something.

they should look at that thing objectively and either say, I dont agree with that and... MOVE THE FUCK ON!...

or they should think critically about what her criticisms are and think how they may affect the medium and offer other varied constructive criticisms of the art form.
but just saying she is WRONG and STUPID... is a pathetic response.
  #6  
Old 10-31-2014, 10:00 PM
loramin loramin is offline
Planar Protector

loramin's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,619
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
So she's giving an opinion and some of the people she's criticizing don't like it. I fail to see a scandal here.
If they just "didn't like it" there would be no scandal. The reason this has gotten so much press is that, rather than making rational arguments against a point of view they don't like, the GamerGate crowd (or rather a more radical subset of them) decided to make very scary rape and death threats against people who didn't share their point of view. One of them actually threatened to shoot up a school because someone they didn't like was going to speak there; I consider that fairly "scandalous".
  #7  
Old 10-31-2014, 10:03 PM
KagatobLuvsAnimu KagatobLuvsAnimu is offline
Banned


Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Gensokyo
Posts: 1,709
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
If they just "didn't like it" there would be no scandal. The reason this has gotten so much press is that, rather than making rational arguments against a point of view they don't like, the GamerGate crowd (or rather a more radical subset of them) decided to make very scary rape and death threats against people who didn't share their point of view. One of them actually threatened to shoot up a school because someone they didn't like was going to speak there; I consider that fairly "scandalous".
Prove that any of them are linked to GamerGate. I dare you. You guarantee yourself a spot on MSNBC/CNN if you can put together actual evidence.
  #8  
Old 10-31-2014, 10:04 PM
KagatobLuvsAnimu KagatobLuvsAnimu is offline
Banned


Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Gensokyo
Posts: 1,709
Default

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This was supposed to be included 2 posts up. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
  #9  
Old 10-31-2014, 10:13 PM
loramin loramin is offline
Planar Protector

loramin's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,619
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Prove that any of them are linked to GamerGate. I dare you. You guarantee yourself a spot on MSNBC/CNN if you can put together actual evidence.
That's not the issue: the issue is that the GamerGate community hasn't disavowed them. To the contrary, many members of the community have defended them. I won't blame an entire group for the actions of a few members, but I will blame that group when they support their problematic members.
  #10  
Old 10-31-2014, 10:44 PM
KagatobLuvsAnimu KagatobLuvsAnimu is offline
Banned


Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Gensokyo
Posts: 1,709
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Right, so in what you just posted, where's the part that makes it ok to threaten people with rape and death?
Who said that? Why are you implying that anyone said any of that is ok? Links. Evidence.
Don't you realize that you're just repeating a baseless narrative.
Quote:
Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
That's not the issue: the issue is that the GamerGate community hasn't disavowed them. To the contrary, many members of the community have defended them. I won't blame an entire group for the actions of a few members, but I will blame that group when they support their problematic members.
*cough*
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
*cough*
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:42 PM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.