Stop the Socking

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We don't have enough Clarks in our guild. Players who can sit at a single camp for 2 months straight farming pixels :/.

But seriously. We tried for one FFA Trak, we don't have the depth of poopsocks you do to be competitive on it. Literally both TMO and IB have 2 mages on poop mountain with 2 more at zone in so that once it spawns you almost immediately have 4 CotHers on the mountain ready to get down the rest of your sockers.

If we cannot get Trakanon, we cannot get VP keys. If we cannot get VP keys the largest benefit to being in Class C is moot. We would get 2 Class C/FFAs on repops totalling 4 a month, far less than what we get in FFA and Class R currently. So it would yield less targets, alienate our more casual players, and burn out our more hardcore players. It's clearly a terrible choice currently.

Remove poopsocking, we may become competitive on more mobs like Trak that may end up pushing us into Class C... But right now we can only really sock VS and only during advantageous windows. Thus why you didn't see us at 4 AM for FFA VS.

Even then I think the VS socking done by us (and Class C) is retarded. Having 3 warriors and 2 clerics auto running into a wall for 16 hours is so dumb, and needs to be eradicated. Which is why I only pop in for 5 min at a time to rebuff. I just happened to be present for the last two when I was rebuffing on my cleric.

You want to see Taken in Class C, oblige Derubael, come up with some ways to get rid of poop socking and CotH FTEs, reduce variance so that windows are smaller and the time commitment to staring at a track box or camping out your main toon are limited and maybe after a few more months Taken may be ready to take that step.

By the way, my question was ignored. 4 AM VS, Class C was the only one there, did you CotH or did you foot race? Since clearly CotHing is a Taken invention and not something condoned by Class C unless absolutely necessary?

Good post. The problem is what someone mentioned earlier in this thread or another one recently. If you guys can spend time on your 6th or 7th alt same as us, or hardcore farm which you can't say Taken doesn't do, then you surely have time to guild PL some mages. Excuses man, but not a bad post.

For God sake, I mean BDA has been on the server longer than most guilds. They should have guild mages by now as well.

As far as Trakanon goes I preferred logging in at Ledge and not making it a COTH war. Was much more enjoyable.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good post. The problem is what someone mentioned earlier in this thread or another one recently. If you guys can spend time on your 6th or 7th alt same as us, or hardcore farm which you can't say Taken doesn't do, then you surely have time to guild PL some mages. Excuses man, but not a bad post.

For God sake, I mean BDA has been on the server longer than most guilds. They should have guild mages by now as well.

As far as Trakanon goes I preferred logging in at Ledge and not making it a COTH war. Was much more enjoyable.

Taken has guild mages, we did exactly as you suggested when the rules changed.

The problem is, this creates a barrier of entry for all the other guilds, namely, it requires THEM to all plvl a mage which is kinda dumb to have these imaginary barriers which are player created.

Many of your TMO bros are actually frowning at us when it is suggested that other guilds follow suit and Plvl a mage to join in the 'level playing field'.

Hence why racing is what being discussed, so you are not 'required' to plvl a mage to simply join in the FFA raid scene. ( granted racing has its own issues, but it does not require extra effort in terms of lvling and creating a 'raid mule character')

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good post. The problem is what someone mentioned earlier in this thread or another one recently. If you guys can spend time on your 6th or 7th alt same as us, or hardcore farm which you can't say Taken doesn't do, then you surely have time to guild PL some mages. Excuses man, but not a bad post.

For God sake, I mean BDA has been on the server longer than most guilds. They should have guild mages by now as well.

As far as Trakanon goes I preferred logging in at Ledge and not making it a COTH war. Was much more enjoyable.

Refer to RNF the last guild mage we PL'd :P.

We have 2 guild mages. One of whom is level 55.

We would need:

2 new guild Mages, 1 Mage PLed from mid 40s-55.

Then we would need a solid 6-12 people willing to sock the entire 18 hour window and another 15-30 camped out to respond to a batphone.

Which reverts to the whole point, and quite literally, the name of the post... Stop the Socking.

To compete on such an FFA mob, having Mages is fine and I grant you that. But having to sock with 1-2 full groups sitting at the entrance the entire window... No. Stop. Don't do that. That's bad and you promised the GMs you wouldn't.

Logging in at the ledge is sort of meh. That just becomes a sock at the character select screen. Somewhat of an improvement. Really should just see how no Mage CotH goes for a week or two on Traks... Would be quite entertaining. Most of the trains would occur in the basement where exp groups rarely set up so it shouldn't be too bad for the regular Seb exper.