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Old 10-22-2014, 10:28 AM
Man0warr Man0warr is offline
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I don't know what I'm trying to say here besides it's such a far cry from what it was previously that it's hard for me to imagine how class R has any complaints. Your system is slower and it seems like you're trying for a bigger slice of the pie. Rotating what is now FFA would be a net gain for class R. It's looking after your people's best interests, I understand. But it'll never be enough, no matter how much you get. 100% of the kills isn't enough, believe me I know. The system is not perfect, but you're raiding on a consistent basis now and I'm glad for that. I hope you are too.
Chest (and other class R Leaders) don't want to get rid of the FFA spawn (except for repops/sim repops) because it will get Class R slightly more loot (~17%). They want to get rid of it so that Class R and Class C never have to interact at all.

How many petitions and RNF drama would be curtailed if Class R and Class C never had to fight over mobs? You guys have your spawns and all of VP, and Class R has theirs. It's such a huge boon to the GM staff I can't believe they haven't considered it at this point.

Class C doesn't want to get rid of FFA because it's 17% more loot to Class R (actually less than that as Class R gets some percentage of FFA pops). That and maybe they secretly like fucking over Class R guilds, causing drama, and RNFing.
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:32 AM
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Chest (and other class R Leaders) don't want to get rid of the FFA spawn (except for repops/sim repops) because it will get Class R slightly more loot (~17%). They want to get rid of it so that Class R and Class C never have to interact at all.

How many petitions and RNF drama would be curtailed if Class R and Class C never had to fight over mobs? You guys have your spawns and all of VP, and Class R has theirs. It's such a huge boon to the GM staff I can't believe they haven't considered it at this point.

Class C doesn't want to get rid of FFA because it's 17% more loot to Class R (actually less than that as Class R gets some percentage of FFA pops). That and maybe they secretly like fucking over Class R guilds, causing drama, and RNFing.
BUT HOW WOULD THEY GEAR THEIR ALTS?!
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:32 AM
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Chest (and other class R Leaders) don't want to get rid of the FFA spawn (except for repops/sim repops) because it will get Class R slightly more loot (~17%). They want to get rid of it so that Class R and Class C never have to interact at all.

How many petitions and RNF drama would be curtailed if Class R and Class C never had to fight over mobs? You guys have your spawns and all of VP, and Class R has theirs. It's such a huge boon to the GM staff I can't believe they haven't considered it at this point.

Class C doesn't want to get rid of FFA because it's 17% more loot to Class R (actually less than that as Class R gets some percentage of FFA pops). That and maybe they secretly like fucking over Class R guilds, causing drama, and RNFing.
Ok then let's make the FFA cycle class C. Mobs will now be C, C, R - no more FFA, more loot to class C but R doesn't care about the extra loot. Win win.
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:36 AM
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They want to get rid of it so that Class R and Class C never have to interact at all.
I think this is the point GMs can't wrap their heads around. The reason there's 10 guilds sharing the R mobs is the same reason there's 1k+ population on the blue server and 200+ on the red server at peaks. Only the minority want to play the game cut-throat.
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:23 PM
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Chest (and other class R Leaders) don't want to get rid of the FFA spawn (except for repops/sim repops) because it will get Class R slightly more loot (~17%). They want to get rid of it so that Class R and Class C never have to interact at all.

How many petitions and RNF drama would be curtailed if Class R and Class C never had to fight over mobs? You guys have your spawns and all of VP, and Class R has theirs. It's such a huge boon to the GM staff I can't believe they haven't considered it at this point.

Class C doesn't want to get rid of FFA because it's 17% more loot to Class R (actually less than that as Class R gets some percentage of FFA pops). That and maybe they secretly like fucking over Class R guilds, causing drama, and RNFing.
Why create a server that makes people interact less ? This is Everquest. You always had to deal with everyone on a server. IF certain people find it hard to interact with others then they should send someone from their guild who doesn't have that same problem.

As for restricting loot and fucking over Class R...Don't listen to what other people say. IF a Class C minded guild wanted to screw Class R over it wouldn't be hard to do. It's been 10 months if you guys can't seriously see no one is trying to screw you over I dunno what to say to you. Eventually you are going to realize the only thing that restricts anyone on this server is themselves. It's a very easy raid scene to get in either via Class R or Class C. Honestly it doesn't need a big change right now either. It needs people having cooler heads and not holding grudges. Because it's working and has been working for almost a year.
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