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[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How was the Holocaust "killing in the name of science"? It was killing in the name of deep-seeded antisemitism backed up by interpretations of religious doctrine which the Catholic church failed to dismiss until it was clear the Nazis had lost the war.

Stalin didn't kill "in the name of science" or "in the name of Atheism". He killed for power because he was a totalitarian sociopath, nothing more, nothing less.

I already gave an example of someone who saw it as a way to further their scientific work. Even more so, you have access to same tools I have (well maybe not, you are kind of dumb) and can google many horrific things done "in the name of science" at least according to claims of people that you know, actually survived. Apparently though their opinions are irrelevant, because it's against your point of views. I understand though, I get where you are coming from, Hitler was a Christian at the time, therefore everything and anything done in the nation at the time was under God. Just as the same you argue right now, Obama being a Christian and all, everything you say must be under the basis that God exists and everything we do is for him.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already gave an example of someone who saw it as a way to further their scientific work.

Of course, he claims it was only in the name of science. It is an easy cop-out that is meant to lessen his barbarism.

I still dont see how it is suppose to change my view of science ....even if you were 100% right. By your own standards shouldnt you also abandon Christianity since bad things were done in it's name. Lots of bad things...

[G13]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, he claims it was only in the name of science. It is an easy cop-out that is meant to lessen his barbarism.

I still dont see how it is suppose to change my view of science ....even if you were 100% right. By your own standards shouldnt you also abandon Christianity since bad things were done in it's name. Lots of bad things...

Humans do bad things

It's called Human Nature

[leewong]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans do bad things

It's called Human Nature

No shit Sherlock...exactly my point. The scientific method isnt a person. It isnt evil or good. It is a tool like any other that can be used for good and bad.

[G13]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No shit Sherlock...exactly my point. The scientific method isnt a person. It isnt evil or good. It is a tool like any other that can be used for good and bad.

It's a tool that humans have corrupted because Human Nature is corrupt

You're taking the human nature factor out of science to try and claim bogus science like Evolution and Global Warming can't be questioned when they are obviously BS

Science is your religion

This has already been explained to you by Robot in this thread, but your head is in the sand

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, he claims it was only in the name of science. It is an easy cop-out that is meant to lessen his barbarism.

I still dont see how it is suppose to change my view of science ....even if you were 100% right. By your own standards shouldnt you also abandon Christianity since bad things were done in it's name. Lots of bad things...

There is no attention to change your views. I think you think I'm trying to accuse science of being evil, when it's on the contrary. It mostly started as sarcasm when someone brought up the crusades, so I raised them a Nazi. Then people freaked that there was no harm done in the holocaust due to science, but that is was all "In the name of God". So I had to stop for a sec, and really wonder, "What?" So I pointed out an example.

Bad people exist, doesn't matter what you believe. The implication here though from you guys is that only bad things happen from "religions" (I put in quotes because you guys still don't understand what a religion is, so yeah). Any implication at all, or examples given where evil was done "In the name of science" is supposedly fake, or just straight up wrong, which even more, supports your guys hypocritical views on..... well at this point, about everything.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no attention to change your views. I think you think I'm trying to accuse science of being evil, when it's on the contrary. It mostly started as sarcasm when someone brought up the crusades, so I raised them a Nazi. Then people freaked that there was no harm done in the holocaust due to science, but that is was all "In the name of God". So I had to stop for a sec, and really wonder, "What?" So I pointed out an example.

Bad people exist, doesn't matter what you believe. The implication here though from you guys is that only bad things happen from "religions" (I put in quotes because you guys still don't understand what a religion is, so yeah). Any implication at all, or examples given where evil was done "In the name of science" is supposedly fake, or just straight up wrong, which even more, supports your guys hypocritical views on..... well at this point, about everything.

Show me a single post where I claim or even imply evil is only committed by the religious. Go on...find it. You cant because this shit is all in your head. You are so eager to dismiss science and demonize me that you forget you need to address the points I make not the imaginary atheist you have locked away in your head.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Show me a single post where I claim or even imply evil is only committed by the religious. Go on...find it. You cant because this shit is all in your head. You are so eager to dismiss science and demonize me that you forget you need to address the points I make not the imaginary atheist you have locked away in your head.

Can't tell if serious

Even more so, someone of your intelligence I would assume knows what an implication is. Tried giving you at least that. So sad though D:

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't tell if serious

Even more so, someone of your intelligence I would assume knows what an implication is. Tried giving you at least that. So sad though D:

'The implication here though from you guys is that only bad things happen from "religions""

Pretty fucking straight forward if you ask me. I am fully aware of what it means to implicate something. Hence, why my reply contained the phrase, "Show me a single post where I claim or even imply evil is only committed by the religious".

Nice try at weaseling out of it though.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

'The implication here though from you guys is that only bad things happen from "religions""

Pretty fucking straight forward if you ask me. I am fully aware of what it means to implicate something. Hence, why my reply contained the phrase, "Show me a single post where I claim or even imply evil is only committed by the religious".

Nice try at weaseling out of it though.

Why would I show you posts of what you say. History shows you don't give 2 fucks about what your previous posts say. Don't make yourself look like a fucking retard. Anyone who has been in this thread knows exactly what you are implying. Don't try and hide from it now that you are pushed in a corner.