religion

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you think scientist actually do? You seem to have a massive misunderstanding of the scientific method or you are being purposefully deceptive. Let me explain to you for the thousandth time in this thread what scientist do:

1. Observe something then ask a question - "I wonder how big Earth is..."

2. Think of an experiment to determine an answer to that question - "With some fancy math and measurements of shadows from two locations that are far apart I can answer this!"

3. Conduct the experiment

4. Have others repeat the experiment to confirm the results. If they match up to yours...congrats. You just solved a question using the scientific method.


Tell me, Eliseus, why do you consider this process like religion? Do churches/cults build massive telescopes, particle colliders, or launch rovers to Mars and I am unaware of it? When was the last time you see a preacher use a microscope to answer a question during his sermon?

re·li·gion
noun \ri-ˈli-jən\

: the belief in a god or in a group of gods

: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods

: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group


a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion>
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
— re·li·gion·less adjective
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be·lief
noun \bə-ˈlēf\

: a feeling of being sure that someone or something exists or that something is true

: a feeling that something is good, right, or valuable

: a feeling of trust in the worth or ability of someone

: a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing
2
: something believed; especially : a tenet or body of tenets held by a group
3
: conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence







1faith
noun \ˈfāth\

: strong belief or trust in someone or something

: belief in the existence of God : strong religious feelings or beliefs

: a system of religious beliefs

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty
b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2
a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3
: something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>
— on faith
: without question <took everything he said on faith>




Inb4 you deny more stuff again.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

re·li·gion
noun \ri-ˈli-jən\

: the belief in a god or in a group of gods

: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods

: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group


a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion>
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
— re·li·gion·less adjective
See religion defined for English-language learners »
See religion defined for kids »








be·lief
noun \bə-ˈlēf\

: a feeling of being sure that someone or something exists or that something is true

: a feeling that something is good, right, or valuable

: a feeling of trust in the worth or ability of someone

: a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing
2
: something believed; especially : a tenet or body of tenets held by a group
3
: conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence







1faith
noun \ˈfāth\

: strong belief or trust in someone or something

: belief in the existence of God : strong religious feelings or beliefs

: a system of religious beliefs

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty
b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2
a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3
: something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>
— on faith
: without question <took everything he said on faith>




Inb4 you deny more stuff again.

So you posted definitions to the word belief, faith, and religion? What exactly is that suppose to prove? Go back and read my post again, numbskull. This time let it sink in.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you posted definitions to the word belief, faith, and religion? What exactly is that suppose to prove? Go back and read my post again, numbskull. This time let it sink in.

Because the last time I posted definitions, you and the 2 other constant responding idiots tried saying it was irrelevant because it was against your points. One of you also tried saying something that scientists don't have beliefs or something similar. So I just saved you the time of arguing more misinformation, cut out the middle bs, and gave you the definitions now. Sadly, proven wrong, instead of arguing more on being incorrect, you try to attack my knowledge of giving you irrelevant info.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because the last time I posted definitions, you and the 2 other constant responding idiots tried saying it was irrelevant because it was against your points. One of you also tried saying something that scientists don't have beliefs or something similar. So I just saved you the time of arguing more misinformation, cut out the middle bs, and gave you the definitions now. Sadly, proven wrong, instead of arguing more on being incorrect, you try to attack my knowledge of giving you irrelevant info.

Just because you believe or have faith in something doesnt make you religious anymore than being able to swim makes you a fish.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because you believe or have faith in something doesnt make you religious anymore than being able to swim makes you a fish.

No one said it does, it was along with the religion definition because, like I already said (please stop just reading what you want to read in posts), one of you already pointed out how scientists don't have a "belief", so I gave the definition of belief and faith, to remove any middle-ground argument BS that having belief is only to have a belief in the supernatural blah blah blah or that faith is only prevalent in the supernatural or blah blah blah.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one said it does, it was along with the religion definition because, like I already said (please stop just reading what you want to read in posts), one of you already pointed out how scientists don't have a "belief", so I gave the definition of belief and faith, to remove any middle-ground argument BS that having belief is only to have a belief in the supernatural blah blah blah or that faith is only prevalent in the supernatural or blah blah blah.

You accuse me of reading what I want to see but then in the same post assume I share the same beliefs as a previous poster. You arent cutting out any middle man. You are propping up straw men and knocking them down.

Please tell me how was your posts on definitions even remotely relevant to my previous post explaining the scientific method? Also, please answer my original question posted in the same post. How do you consider the scientific method as I posted "religious"?

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You accuse me of reading what I want to see but then in the same post assume I share the same beliefs as a previous poster. You arent cutting out any middle man. You are propping up straw men and knocking them down.

Please tell me how was your posts on definitions even remotely relevant to my previous post explaining the scientific method? Also, please answer my original question posted in the same post. How do you consider the scientific method as I posted "religious"?

Oh one of these people, claims straw MAN for everything that you disagree with. YOU literally asked how science was religious, and I pointed it out.

It's not just sciences but it is ANYTHING that people share the same views as someone else or something else is religious, which was my very first post in this thread, to argue that any views against religion is ridiculous because that view in of itself is a religious view. Then you guys turned it into "science vs religion" and it turned mostly into the hypocritical views you idiots share on how ok it is for someone to be taught things that can be completely fabricated, but because it has the words "science" above it somehow changes the fact that our kids could be preached that instead of religious fabrications. That is the entirety of my points, even more so, off of definitions that I don't just live by, but legit definitions that EVERYONE has access to and lives by, you are INCORRECT in your assertion that sciences is not a religion.

In the end though, like I said, it ultimately doesn't matter here, I'm sure if people like you truly wanted to know the facts of life, you wouldn't be looking for it on a websites called project1999 lol. I don't expect people to change their minds, no matter how logical the situation or argument is here. I do enjoy however bringing up stuff and really seeing how people think or feel or believe. Sometimes it leads into really cool discussions or what if type situations or interesting facts I've never heard or read about that really, are just kind of cool, weather it's a religious view I don't agree with or a scientific view I don't agree with, or an Atheist being, well, an Atheist.

Oh, and to touch up on your last question, because I don't think I really answered that going off on a little rant instead. Well actually I did answer it, you have just chosen several times to ignore it. Religion is more than just the following of a supernatural belief. For example, some guy suggests the big bang is what happened. Even 1 person with the same belief is considered it a religious follow. Religion is more-or-less the idea of sharing the same beliefs/morals/etc.... Not just "hey man, do you believe in God". That is the point of the definitions, which you guys claim are false, because someone in a land that no one can access, random scientists have different definitions of stuff that is incorrect from what the masses believe/know.