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Old 09-09-2014, 05:42 PM
Liten Liten is offline
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Soooo Elderan eating mutiple bans on blue, Nizzar eating mulitple bans on blue, Nizzar eating bans here, Vaporize avoiding a ban here for RMT, Handpartytowel being banned for distributing MQ compiles. Tune eating multiple suspensions for, exploiting, training, and account stripping, narrowly avoiding ban. And that's just the shit they were caught for.

Shit dude that's the entire officer's pool of your guild, yet me not being in Nihilum I knew about it but you didn't? I think it's more likely that you didn't care as long as that Pixel wagon came making a stop at your station.
Not sure if people are denying that we had a shady history on some people in Nihilum, including leadership, im not. For me that was not why the guild banning feels wrong. I'm fine with Nihilum getting disbanded, IF it didn't feel completely one sided.

There is a lot more people here with a shady history who's punishment compared to that Nihilum got is close to noting. I can make a fairly decent list of members in Azrael who's done very bad on a number of occasions.

Add that to things like 1 day suspensions for training our raids when a GM is watching, how GMs gave the first PD to Azrael after they trained themself twice(GM resses on their clerics). And many more similar situations where GMs has been very afraid to punish the resistance and even assisting them. In fear the little end game competition there was, would end i guess.

Regardless how i look at it, there is no way the GMs didn't WANT to disband Nihilum. Which i won't deny might be good for the server for a few months, but it's hardly a fair judgement compared to everything else that goes on here.

On the same note, whatever happen to "Azrael is not coming clean out of this mess either"?

Anyhow... i assume i get banned for this one, bye!
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:13 PM
Swyft Swyft is offline
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Not sure if people are denying that we had a shady history on some people in Nihilum, including leadership, im not. For me that was not why the guild banning feels wrong. I'm fine with Nihilum getting disbanded, IF it didn't feel completely one sided.

There is a lot more people here with a shady history who's punishment compared to that Nihilum got is close to noting. I can make a fairly decent list of members in Azrael who's done very bad on a number of occasions.

Add that to things like 1 day suspensions for training our raids when a GM is watching, how GMs gave the first PD to Azrael after they trained themself twice(GM resses on their clerics). And many more similar situations where GMs has been very afraid to punish the resistance and even assisting them. In fear the little end game competition there was, would end i guess.

Regardless how i look at it, there is no way the GMs didn't WANT to disband Nihilum. Which i won't deny might be good for the server for a few months, but it's hardly a fair judgement compared to everything else that goes on here.

On the same note, whatever happen to "Azrael is not coming clean out of this mess either"?

Anyhow... i assume i get banned for this one, bye!
I think of it kind of in reverse, that it was amazing you guys didn't get disbanded a long time ago. Vap is the only person on red I know of who RMT'd and didn't catch a ban for it.

I'm sorry it's so shocking that repeatedly breaking the rules eventually results in a guild ban, but you could have saved yourself the astonishment by simply reading the terms of service.
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:22 PM
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I think of it kind of in reverse, that it was amazing you guys didn't get disbanded a long time ago. Vap is the only person on red I know of who RMT'd and didn't catch a ban for it.

I'm sorry it's so shocking that repeatedly breaking the rules eventually results in a guild ban, but you could have saved yourself the astonishment by simply reading the terms of service.

And that's the whole point. If everyone who broke the rules suffered banns/suspensions the same way. I'd be totally fine with it. Like I said, I don't question that rules where broken. I just wanted everyone to play by the same rules.
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