TLDR Brainstorming Red99's future and why Red is not Blue

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To people against boxing [though some who claim to be box themselves], what is your suggestion then to make rolling on red99 more accessible? Do you not believe that the dearth of support classes leads to a difficult setting with which to create groups? Is your alternative "well pvp isn't as popular so oh well"?

One thing I've always been against is low level twinks griefing new players off the server. I caused a big ruckuss in Azrael TS for calling someone out on it and was basically told to shut up who cares about new players.

Another thing is actually helping new players like YOU did with red dawn and I with VV. If you want fresh meat you need to help. With todays XP bonus is a fucking joke to how fast you can get a group of lowbies up to planar level.

Lastly simmer the fuck down. It is early as fuck and some of you are already flying off the handle. From OOC trolling to forum shit talk, often it just goes to far. I may be to blame for this one too, on occassion I used to troll ooc pretty hard but I tried to stay away from personal attacks at least.

The thing is the casual newb having a hard time can be fixed by the community already. You just need someone who isn't burned out on helping people to do it.

Those are just a few things on the top of my head. No coffee and doing homework so hopefully that made some sense.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Comments like this make me roll my eyes and wonder why I play here. What is there possibly to lose by turning on boxing for 5 days? For 3 days? It is literally impossible to create any long term damage by simply allowing boxing for 72 hours. Same with Variance [which I don't actually support].

Because there's a bunch of people who don't play here that create a bunch of noise over changes, when they don't even play here.

There is no harm, there is no argument against it, there's a bunch of illogical claims by people who DO NOT PLAY HERE.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Comments like this make me roll my eyes and wonder why I play here. What is there possibly to lose by turning on boxing for 5 days? For 3 days? It is literally impossible to create any long term damage by simply allowing boxing for 72 hours. Same with Variance [which I don't actually support].

I am very pro-boxing. ALL of the rest of staff, GMs, Admin, everyone is anti-boxing.

Its just the way it is.

H

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am very pro-boxing. ALL of the rest of staff, GMs, Admin, everyone is anti-boxing.

Its just the way it is.

H

Yes for reasons that make sense on Blue, but don't on Red.

[Gaffin 7.0]

this is one of the biggest problems with red

lvl up your character (a melee at that) with nothing get killed alot so automatically you are a joke to the community

wrong, how about you stop being such a fucking asshole, take a xanax and relax and see others opinions without exploding like Max

[heartbrand]

So your answer to getting more people to roll here and play unpopular support classes is less low level twinks and helping people.

I appreciate your suggestion, and I think that's important, but I respectfully disagree that those are the top issues. I think the biggest issue is that there's a trickling in of players here, one here one there, and because of this they have difficulty finding other people who are taking the "plunge" to play with. They get burnt out / bored quickly of trying to find people to play with and thus quit. I think this is a much larger problem than twinks / forums / OOC Quest, etc., and one that boxing would rectify.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing I've always been against is low level twinks griefing new players off the server. I caused a big ruckuss in Azrael TS for calling someone out on it and was basically told to shut up who cares about new players.

Another thing is actually helping new players like YOU did with red dawn and I with VV. If you want fresh meat you need to help. With todays XP bonus is a fucking joke to how fast you can get a group of lowbies up to planar level.

Lastly simmer the fuck down. It is early as fuck and some of you are already flying off the handle. From OOC trolling to forum shit talk, often it just goes to far. I may be to blame for this one too, on occassion I used to troll ooc pretty hard but I tried to stay away from personal attacks at least.

The thing is the casual newb having a hard time can be fixed by the community already. You just need someone who isn't burned out on helping people to do it.

Those are just a few things on the top of my head. No coffee and doing homework so hopefully that made some sense.

It didn't, at all, your logic is shit, you have no experience, and you're stupid.

[bigeasy]

2 boxing was classic only thing that kept you from doing it was you had to pay for 2 accounts and maybe generally people didn't have more than 1 computer back then,, not sure why it is not allowed here when things like kunark being almost 3 years on blue and 2 on red obviously isn't classic

there are more vp geared players on this box than the totality of live during the kunark timeline i'd bet,, classic right? boxing would allow smaller crews to do more velious content and there would be less zerging like azrael is doing now

[heartbrand]

The most frustrating part is tons of people box here already because Red is essentially an unwatched server. So the only people punished are those who choose to play by the rules.

[Gaffin 7.0]

variance solves nothing, live never had it, we shouldnt

if anything i would rather see a raid system like blue has with different raid class ranks so each guild gets dragons

but its PvP so that doesnt really work